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Now, look, I'm not saying things may change all that much.
You never know with this administration.
I last word on this.
I think it could be possible.
The reason why is, you know what?
They're all telling Trump, of course, it's not your fault, sir.
But this is a distraction from all of your other accomplishments like Venezuela or.
And yeah, they're like, oh, well, we just got to go back to stealing Venezuelan oil and bombing Iran.
This is literally what Lindsey Graham told him on the phone.
Not joking.
Yeah, as of as of 48 hours ago.
But what that at the very least means is that I think that there is a vibe in the administration, not not just a policy vibe, but of like we should push the max.
And what Trump is kind of saying is like, no, you're going to get me in trouble right now.
And when that happens, you are going to immediately become the scapegoat and you're going to be fired.
So I could see it having that type of effect in the government.
Again, it is way, way too early to say, and it's not like you can just erase what the whole last year has looked like.
And so that's a good transition to our guest, Kyle Chaney.
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