John A. Gentry

And they're all heavily involved in information operations as well as nuclear weapons and conquering other countries.

Well, they would be... These were the old Soviet ones now, right?

So, well, these would be the ways that you create turmoil in capitalist society to generate the Marxian revolution.

Well, the Russians are not Marxists, are they?

Putin, you know, authoritarians, yeah.

Russian nationalists, yep.

But they're not Marxist-Leninists the way the Soviets were.

So a lot of what the Russians are doing now

borrowing the techniques in terms of forgeries, in terms of getting information to friendly journalists and so on.

But their goals are different.

So Putin has pretty clearly got a Russian nationalist agenda, restore the territorial empire that horribly, from his perspective, horribly was lost when the Soviet Union collapsed.

So how do you do that?

You're targeting then groups that are opposing you, for example, in Ukraine.

So that would be the European Union, that would be NATO, and that would be member states of those countries.

So you want to generate divisions.

So pretty clearly, one of the big targets

in the United States is to use information operations, basically active measures again, but now you're trying to generate removal of support for Ukraine in the United States.

Social media is a key way to do that.

The people they're targeting are Republicans.

So you remember I mentioned earlier that the Soviets found it easiest to target liberals.