John B. Allen (MrBallen)

But they accepted this.

It is what it is.

Their dad loves them, and he's just trying to do the right thing for the family.

So with that as the backdrop, there was this night where Frank was out doing one of these late shifts.

This is, again, sometime in September of 86, and the girls are home.

And the girls, the death of their mom is so new in some ways that they haven't quite moved to the point of acceptance.

They still almost feel like mom's gonna come around the corner.

Like it just feels unreal that she's gone.

And they just felt desperately that they just wanted to have one more interaction with their mom.

It's like they felt it in their bones.

They just missed her so badly.

And so with their dad,

gone for the night, the older girl, Tina, the 15-year-old, she asked the younger girl, Karen, hey, do you wanna get the Ouija board out and try to contact mom?

So for those who don't know what a Ouija board is.

Yeah, you know?

A Ouija board, it looks sort of like just a rectangular game board.

And it has A through Z on it, A, B, C, D, all the letters, the alphabet.

It has 0 up to 9, all the digits.

And you put this, it's called a planchette.

It's like this little dial that has felt tips, three prongs felt tips that it sits on.