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John Burn-Murdoch

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678 total appearances

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Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

But do you think that's where we should end up if we're taking this seriously?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

So in a sense, we've got these two families of technological breakthroughs.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

One is extending life, and the other is now extending the health and the quality of life.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

Yeah, exactly.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

What are some of the other big society-wide economic problems

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

Productivity.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

What are the impacts?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

What does this new world look like?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

But the trajectory there, if we're talking here about productivity, presumably we're talking about people in their 50s.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

Yeah, exactly.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

Are we saying that productivity has been worsening and health worsening?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

Now, a word that came up earlier or an initialism that came up earlier was AI.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

Yeah.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

What role has AI been playing in whether it's on prevention or extension?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

And what do you see coming down the pike over the next decade from that area as well?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

With AI, a couple of concerns often come up, right?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

So one is that everything you're describing here relies on having an enormous amount of data to feed into the models, both when you're training them and then when you're using them.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

When people raise concerns about the amount of data that needs to be stored there digitally and the risk of security issues, you know, we had the UK biobank leak recently.

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

How do you think or how do you suggest people should think about the trade-offs involved there?

Radical with Amol Rajan
Healthcare, Reinvited: How Dramatic Medical Breakthroughs Are Quietly Changing Your Life (Professor Sir John Bell)

Because again, there's a lot of discussion here about the risks of having it all in one place and people are concerned about specifically the US tech company Palantir's role here.