John Case

But we're always open to the machine because there's so many bizarre things about the machines.

But didn't Tina Peeners went to trial?

They found her guilty, I think, of seven felonies.

Look, she's a gold star mother.

She's in ill health.

She's held, I think, in a medium security women's prison in Colorado, which my understanding is quite dangerous with the inmates there.

She's being abused and picked on all the time when she's not in solitary confinement.

But just for the audience, didn't you guys have every opportunity to present all this evidence at her case, her trial, before she was found guilty of seven felonies by a jury of her peers?

Especially because some of the charges were very specific to what you're talking about today, correct?

No, the charge, first of all, she was convicted of four felonies.

She was acquitted of three.

And we had no chance to present evidence about why Tina did what she did.

So why she did what she did is she knew that the secretary of state was going to erase the digital election records that she as county clerk was obligated to preserve by federal law.

And once she knew that, she made arrangements with a qualified

OSBT, Curt Brown, Cybersecurity consultant to make an image of the mason county election management server hard drive so those records were would be preserved the image that she made was legal, the gentleman who did it was authorized to enter the room.

OSBT, Curt Brown, Tina had the legal authority to authorize that gentleman to do the work that he did.

And the cameras were turned off to protect the identity of that person who had requested that his identity not be revealed because he was being hunted by the cartels for his work for the FBI in a child trafficking internet operation.

So Tina honored his request that his identity be kept secret.

The cameras were turned off, but that was legal.

The cameras were not required to be turned on.