Episode 4995: Suing Colorado For The Freedom Of Tina Peters; Send In The National Guard To Savannah
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exhorting his colleagues this year. He said, do not anticipate what a dictator wants and accede to it in advance. Do not obey in advance. Whenever you see those words, do not obey in advance, you are seeing Tim Snyder's ideas at work in the world. And that admonition has wormed its way into all of our consciences, right? Start by not giving in. Lesson one. One of the other things I'm going to talk about with Tim tonight is another one of his lessons that sometimes comes to me in the middle of the night, which is his lesson 18. And that is, be calm when the unthinkable arrives. Tim Snyder somehow got that essential idea down to six words. Be calm when the unthinkable arrives. It now lives in my brain every day.
And it lives in the world as unforgettable guidance for anybody who does have a tyrannical nightmare unfolding where they live. What do you think that our national reaction should be to those prosecutions and relatedly to the administration's efforts to characterize all these overwhelmingly nonviolent protests against them as if they're all riots and they're all constructed, nefarious, criminal, dangerous things? Yeah, I mean, we should all know, and I'm sure we all do know, that this is how authoritarian regimes react to any kind of physical opposition. You get characterized as terrorists and criminals and foreigners and so on. This is absolutely authoritarianism 101, and we should help make sure that in sensitive issues like this,
The media don't just repeat what the leaders say, because when they repeat it, they normalize it. A second thing is to make sure that we have the positive language on our side, that we recollect that not only in this country, but pretty much everywhere, there isn't progress towards these things that we like to call freedom and justice and democracy without some friction. It just never happened. Like from every moment, your preferred moment in American history, whatever it is, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement, whatever it is, there's friction. There is always friction. And so we have to have the positive language. The third thing is we have to help people be heroes. Nobody's a hero on their own.
Like, somebody does a little courageous thing, but the people who make them heroes are the ones who donate to their legal defense, the ones who write the articles about them, the ones who celebrate those little acts of courage. That is on us to do, because you mentioned a lot, a number of people, but there are more people who could be mentioned, right? And we need to prop them up. And the final thing I think, legally, and I'm just talking to all you lawyers out there, because this is Chicago, and like a lot of you are going to be lawyers, we... We have to go on the offensive legally. We can't just keep waiting for them to sue us and prosecute us. We have to find ways to file civil suits against them, which are going to be more plausible than their suits against us, and get them on the back foot and consume their resources and force the press to cover our suits against them.
We're winning a lot of cases defensively, and that's great, but I think we should be going on the offense as well. Because the things... When you started wearing a whistle, why the whistle occurred to you and how it sort of took off from a small-scale idea to being as big as it is?
At the beginning, I just wanted to inform my community about ice agents and to take cover. So I actually have a whistle.
There it is.
And you know, people said, what is the whistle going to do? And it's to inform the community that ICE agents are around. If you are undocumented, lock your doors, lock your gates, lock your windows, and stay safe. And people were still doubting that. And then we talked to our brothers and sisters over in LA, and they said, Balthazar, when they came, they came like savages. And they came through our schools, through our parks, and our hospitals, and they turned off the cell phone towers with a stingray. And then I said, well, you can't turn off the whistle because...
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