John Collison

And I think it's deceptive to think of them as kind of incremental, you know, on one spectrum of complexity.

And you have to tackle, if I think about the hardest parts of...

building a fully autonomous rider-only system, they are very different from what you do for a driver assist system.

And of course, some work in this space helps you, right?

I don't want to say you can't make the jump, but it is a qualitative jump.

I'm not going to give you a date today, but you're not the first person to bring this up as a product request.

That's my product request.

Duly noted.

Sure.

I will say that we are overall in all of those areas on a path of increasing efficiency and automation.

All right.

So, you know, the number of manual steps that one had to do five years ago to, you know,

you know, launch a Waymo versus where we are today is drastically different, right?

So, yeah.

But nowadays, if you look at one of our depots as like a fully automatically orchestrated, you know, dance of autonomous vehicles.

So the way it looks today,

What it looks like today is cars will automatically go on there to pick up their riders, serve their trips.

If for some reason they need to come back, maybe they're low on energy, maybe somebody left a mess on the car, they will automatically come to the depot.

If it is, so cleaning today is a manual process, right?

So I'll get flagged in the car, you know, we have fleet management systems say, hey, you know, car, you know, number, you know, 378 needs cleaning.