John Curtice

Nothing happened.

And of course, Brown lost.

But all the circumstances that will save Keir Starmer...

Well, Luke Trill has just walked into the studio more in common.

I thought you looked like a zombie, Luke, but you're kind of disgustingly fresh.

It's ten past one in the afternoon.

We're still waiting for quite a lot of Scotland and Wales.

What would be your top line at this point?

What is your takeaway if people are just tuning into this?

So if I did the sort of unforgivable and fast forwarded this to a general election picture, and obviously we know that this is about local issues, but it's also not.

We're talking about the potential of...

the party of government being won on a really small majority now, right?

I mean, what is the smallest... I mean, could you imagine a reformed government on basically 25% of the vote?

Meanwhile, with the locals, we're seeing all these councils fall into an overall control, this big mass of grey.

I mean, is that going to be an absolute shitshow for governing there?

Are we going to feel that?

So at the end of kind of today, we've already heard Keir Starmer come out and say, I will be the prime minister fighting the next election.

Is he more vulnerable or is he safer?

And in your focus groups, are people talking about

Other potential leaders.