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John Daniel

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The Agency
The Price of Freedom

Thanks to Steve Burridge, Ali Marsden, Jeremy Ansell and William Saunders.

The Agency
The Price of Freedom

Thanks to Megan Whelan and thanks also to Susan Baldacci.

The Agency
The Price of Freedom

Thanks also to CNN, TVNZ, BBC, the ABC, Universal and Paramount.

The Agency
The Price of Freedom

To read more about the documents and articles we've mentioned, you can go to rnz.co.nz forward slash the agency and you can see the links in the show notes.

The Agency
Treachery

Previously on the agency.

The Agency
Treachery

Aldrich Ames, or Rick Ames, had worked for CIA in various guises since the early 1960s.

The Agency
Treachery

He'd risen to a lead role in the Southeast Asia Division of the Soviet and East European section when he began passing secrets to the KGB in 1985.

The Agency
Treachery

But this wasn't discovered until 1994.

The Agency
Treachery

Yeah, it's hard to be sure exactly what happened with Vladimir and the operation against the GRU.

The Agency
Treachery

Aldrich Ames began his betrayal in 1985, but it went on for nine years.

The Agency
Treachery

It was probably the worst penetration of the CIA in its entire history, and the wider understanding of what happened would take decades to piece together.

The Agency
Treachery

This is a clip from ABC's Nightline in 2014.

The Agency
Treachery

Yeah, although Ames is only able to throw Gordievsky under the bus because of some pretty bad behaviour from CIA themselves.

The Agency
Treachery

They shouldn't have known Gordievsky's name.

The Agency
Treachery

Very few people at MI6 knew his name.

The Agency
Treachery

It was highly secret for exactly this reason.

The Agency
Treachery

You've got to keep maximum security for the safety of the person who has entrusted you with their life.

The Agency
Treachery

MI6 had shared the information they were getting from him with CIA and probably other Five Eyes partners, but Gordievsky himself was known only by a codename to them.

The Agency
Treachery

So CIA analysts pull together all the information they have from this source, and by cross-checking with what they know from their side, they end up being able to put a real identity to the codename.