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John Eligon

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190 total appearances

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The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

What you had was essentially a lot of violence in the country as a whole. And as part of that violence, you had murders happening on farms. A lot of black South Africans have felt that the pace of change, the pace of ownership of land has not changed quickly enough.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

What you had was essentially a lot of violence in the country as a whole. And as part of that violence, you had murders happening on farms. A lot of black South Africans have felt that the pace of change, the pace of ownership of land has not changed quickly enough.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

You see things where there are communities around some of these farms where people who are still living in shacks and living in poor dwellings might just go and invade land.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

You see things where there are communities around some of these farms where people who are still living in shacks and living in poor dwellings might just go and invade land.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

Automatically, those things kind of become racialized, right? They become seen as sort of a broader effort to target white people, to target white farm owners and to take the land from them.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

Automatically, those things kind of become racialized, right? They become seen as sort of a broader effort to target white people, to target white farm owners and to take the land from them.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

We haven't done anything to anybody. Why?

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

We haven't done anything to anybody. Why?

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

So you have this population that has just lost power. And they'd already been thinking that the black majority was going to come after them at the end of apartheid. But now you see this increase in violence on farms, and it's just like for many Afrikaners, their worst fear is coming true.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

So you have this population that has just lost power. And they'd already been thinking that the black majority was going to come after them at the end of apartheid. But now you see this increase in violence on farms, and it's just like for many Afrikaners, their worst fear is coming true.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

But I think it's important to note that the police statistics show that there is not and has never been mass killings of white farmers in In fact, the farm murders account for only a very tiny percentage of the overall killings in South Africa. And on top of that, if you look at who is killed on farms, they tend to be farm workers or the people who are living there.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

But I think it's important to note that the police statistics show that there is not and has never been mass killings of white farmers in In fact, the farm murders account for only a very tiny percentage of the overall killings in South Africa. And on top of that, if you look at who is killed on farms, they tend to be farm workers or the people who are living there.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

And those people tend to be black. But even so, this fear had taken hold among Afrikaners. And this is when we really start seeing their journey toward identifying as a persecuted people begin to play out.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

And those people tend to be black. But even so, this fear had taken hold among Afrikaners. And this is when we really start seeing their journey toward identifying as a persecuted people begin to play out.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

And how does that get on the radar of Donald Trump?

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

And how does that get on the radar of Donald Trump?

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

So over many years, you had Afrikaners who were going around the world and lobbying to They were writing reports, laying out their calculations of how many people were getting killed on farms. They were creating lists of what they called quote-unquote race laws, which are laws that they felt were essentially discriminating against white people.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

So over many years, you had Afrikaners who were going around the world and lobbying to They were writing reports, laying out their calculations of how many people were getting killed on farms. They were creating lists of what they called quote-unquote race laws, which are laws that they felt were essentially discriminating against white people.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

And they got that message around to as many people as they could. And eventually, they made their way to Washington, where in 2018... some prominent Afrikaner activists appeared on Tucker Carlson's show.

The Daily
No More Refugees, Trump Said. Except White South Africans.

And they got that message around to as many people as they could. And eventually, they made their way to Washington, where in 2018... some prominent Afrikaner activists appeared on Tucker Carlson's show.