John Fasile

And he never gave up on mime, even if the audiences were smaller.

And what do you give?

Yeah.

Thanks, Glenn.

So while making this story, I got really obsessed with this idea of mime and like using your body to express creative ideas as a form of political resistance and

And mime has always been a form of protest, like even going back to ancient times.

Here's Marcel Marceau talking at KQED in 1971.

Wow.

He repeats this idea that Gregory says in our story, which is that because mimes were silent, it was easier for them to get away with this.

So there's this story about Marcel Marceau that is really amazing and encapsulates all this perfectly.

Before Marcel Marceau was the world's most famous mime, when he was just a teenager who was into clowning and silent films, the Nazis invaded France.

This was May of 1940.

And Marcel was Jewish.

His real name is actually Marcel Mangel.

His father was arrested and sent to Auschwitz, where he died.

He was murdered.

Marcel went into hiding, and that's when he changed his last name to Marceau.

And he also joined the French Resistance.

And as part of the resistance, he helped rescue kids whose parents had been deported.

He would transport Jewish orphans by train to Switzerland.