John Gafford

And now, Escaping the Drift, the show designed to get you from where you are to where you want to be. I'm Jon Gafford, and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets to help you on a path to greatness. So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now.

And now, Escaping the Drift, the show designed to get you from where you are to where you want to be. I'm Jon Gafford, and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets to help you on a path to greatness. So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now.

And now, Escaping the Drift, the show designed to get you from where you are to where you want to be. I'm Jon Gafford, and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets to help you on a path to greatness. So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now.

Back again for another episode of the podcast of, like it says in the opening, man, gets you from where you are to where you want to be. And today, people.

Back again for another episode of the podcast of, like it says in the opening, man, gets you from where you are to where you want to be. And today, people.

Back again for another episode of the podcast of, like it says in the opening, man, gets you from where you are to where you want to be. And today, people.

beamed through the interwebs live into the studio i got a cat that has invented something pretty cool it is a uh and no it's not going to be an infomercial if you're thinking that that's not what we do we do not take paid placement on this show it's not how this works i just generally thought this was pretty cool and i want to talk to the guy about it so he is the ceo of a company called mode mobile where he has created a way his goal in life what he's trying to do is stop

beamed through the interwebs live into the studio i got a cat that has invented something pretty cool it is a uh and no it's not going to be an infomercial if you're thinking that that's not what we do we do not take paid placement on this show it's not how this works i just generally thought this was pretty cool and i want to talk to the guy about it so he is the ceo of a company called mode mobile where he has created a way his goal in life what he's trying to do is stop

beamed through the interwebs live into the studio i got a cat that has invented something pretty cool it is a uh and no it's not going to be an infomercial if you're thinking that that's not what we do we do not take paid placement on this show it's not how this works i just generally thought this was pretty cool and i want to talk to the guy about it so he is the ceo of a company called mode mobile where he has created a way his goal in life what he's trying to do is stop

the income disparity, the wage gap, by allowing you to take your cell phone and turn it into a tool that makes money. So let's talk to them. Let's see. Let's see. Let's get the ins and outs of that business and learn all about them. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. This is Dan DeVayas. Dan, how are you?

the income disparity, the wage gap, by allowing you to take your cell phone and turn it into a tool that makes money. So let's talk to them. Let's see. Let's see. Let's get the ins and outs of that business and learn all about them. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. This is Dan DeVayas. Dan, how are you?

the income disparity, the wage gap, by allowing you to take your cell phone and turn it into a tool that makes money. So let's talk to them. Let's see. Let's see. Let's get the ins and outs of that business and learn all about them. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. This is Dan DeVayas. Dan, how are you?

What did your parents do that would cause you to be born an entrepreneur? Tell me about you growing up.

What did your parents do that would cause you to be born an entrepreneur? Tell me about you growing up.

What did your parents do that would cause you to be born an entrepreneur? Tell me about you growing up.

Uh, you know, from one of those businesses, just simply arbitraging electronics from here to Brazil.

Uh, you know, from one of those businesses, just simply arbitraging electronics from here to Brazil.

Uh, you know, from one of those businesses, just simply arbitraging electronics from here to Brazil.

Well, I like to say that all great entrepreneurs are chronically unemployable. So that's not a surprising part of that story whatsoever. To be great at this, you just can't be able to work for somebody else. It's part of how it works. So you said you were doing this and then you branched into software. You said it's a long story. Good news is we got time.

Well, I like to say that all great entrepreneurs are chronically unemployable. So that's not a surprising part of that story whatsoever. To be great at this, you just can't be able to work for somebody else. It's part of how it works. So you said you were doing this and then you branched into software. You said it's a long story. Good news is we got time.