John Gafford

Now, I know you're in Fort Myers now.

This is going somewhere.

Were you ever in radio in Fort Myers?

There's a reason I ask.

All right.

That's another story.

Well, the reason, the reason I asked free plug for, I wish I could say I was the most talented of my siblings behind a microphone with this podcast thing.

But my sister has been in radio for probably 25 years, was in Naples at one point.

She's now number one in her marketplace in Denver.

She's on KL.

She does talk radio and she's number one in her market.

And so that's why I was wondering, I'm like, I wonder if you might know who my sister would be from, from Fort Myers, but yeah, probably not.

Anyway, but yeah, if you're listening to this and you want to check her out, Mandy Connell, she is amazing.

Check her out.

She's syndicated through the iHeart Network.

She's amazing.

Anyway, so back to what we were talking about, or supposed to be talking about, which is going to be psychology and sales.

So let's get a little deeper into that as to why people buy stuff.

We didn't get eaten by the dinosaurs.

There you go.