John Gafford

yeah dude you have had like again you have a man that's lived a thousand lives some of them good some of them bad um so you've had done some amazing stuff you had an amazing you had a huge setback and an amazing comeback and we'll get to that a little bit later but first let's start out with kind of how you met my wife um was through the reality show casting world so how you met her

thank thank god you were you were great at casting women and terrible at casting men because i guess her her blind date was kind of a colossal failure which is you know hey if it would have gone good i don't know i don't know if we're having this conversation right now and i don't know if we're married so i'm gonna i'm gonna be grateful that you weren't that good at that portion of your job i guess i'm serious that's amazing

So dude, you were, you were, I remember you were balling back in Vegas back in the day and life was coming pretty quick and a lot of amazing stuff was happening.

Yeah.

And then you had a little bit of a tragedy.

Let's get into that.

Like, let's talk about that.

Because at that point if I'm if I'm correct you and your wife had just had a baby at that point I mean you had a young child.

Okay, so when you get convicted and they say you have to go to jail and you're sitting there, what was that time like in jail?

What choices did you make that changed the direction of what you were trying to do?

I needed that in my village, you know?

Yeah.

So you had a lot of people show up.

Do you have any people kind of go away because of this?

I think part of it is I kind of came through not the jail stuff, but at one point I was the GM of what Esquire magazine called the number one nightclub on the East Coast of the United States.

And that was Cobalt Lounge in Atlanta.

And then after kind of the Ray Lewis debacle of the Super Bowl of 2000, that kind of ended that club, right?

It kind of dried up.

And what I realized was in a weird sort of way was, again, I went through a depression after that because my whole avatar, my whole...

my whole self-worth got wrapped up in that job.