John Gafford
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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Like, because there was much like probably you in LA at that time, there was no place I could not go.
I waited for nothing.
I paid for nothing.
It was velvet rope clicking everywhere I went.
And everybody wanted to be close to you because of what you were.
And then when that went away, well, now all of a sudden it was like, well, whoa, how many people around me are real and how many people were around me because of that?
And it kind of made me jaded for a long time on relationships and very suspect of people going forward.
Like, you know, is it about what I can give you or is it about who I really am?
Did any of that happen to you?
Oh, because I've locked you up here.
That's why.
Okay, cool.
Hang on a minute.
I'm going to unlock you because I'm looking here.
Let me do that.
Hang on.
Okay.
Yeah, hang on a minute.
Yeah, it's weird to talk about this and look at yourself.
Let me undo that.