John Gafford

Yeah.

Who says 25 year old kid, you're a grownup at 25, or at least you better, better be acting like one.

Well, I love that idea about the age milestones and what you should or shouldn't be doing.

The thing that's probably hit me, I was like, what are you talking about?

I just got back, me and some friends took a trip to Antarctica and rappelled down a glacier in the middle of Antarctica.

and um yeah where we were less more people climb everest every year than go to the interior of antarctica and that's where we were and it was a huge trip and and here's the thing like we had this crazy trip to south africa and we were there for 10 days and the thing that keeps sticking in my mind is on the way back i had a 30 i call it 36 hour layover in dubai

And so randomly a bunch of very high level entrepreneurs that I know were in Dubai for an event.

So I was like, you're in Dubai, I'm in Dubai.

So we all hooked up and we all went to dinner.

And one of the guys who's a really good dude was like, where did you go?

And he, nice, this is a nice guy, but he's like a young guy.

He's like 32.

And he's like, where did you go?

And I'm like, well, we did this.

And when I showed him the video, I'm like, probably the glacier.

He's like, bro.

He's like, people your age don't do stuff like that.

And I'm like, what?

You're like, what are you talking?

I'm like, what are you talking about?