John Gafford

Like people my age, like what?

He's like, yeah, dude, you're like, you know, in your fifties, like people don't do, I'm like,

Like, it never even occurred to me that, like, I shouldn't be doing it.

Like, it just never even crossed my mind.

And I'm like, what are you, like, huh?

And I still, every day I'm like, you know, it wasn't a shot.

It was genuine, like, surprise that, like, oh, you're still out there doing it.

Good for you, buddy.

I'm like, bro, I'm like, in my mind, I was talking to Gidget about this.

I'm like, I'm perpetually like 32 years old in my brain.

That's kind of, that's kind of where I just kind of, I don't think I feel any different physically or mentally than I have since I've been 32 years old.

I just kind of feel the same.

And, and that's kind of where in my brain, I guess I am age wise, but it just never occurred to me that I should know guys my age don't do stuff like that.

What are you talking about?

releasing this so that's a great story about yeah but so but so now so hang on so there's more to it so now then you go to the flip side and you're like i mean i'm not buying a corvette and a captain set so you're like am i having some kind of a weird like midlife cry is that why i'm doing all those crazy no it's just i'm just doing the same kind of stuff that i've always done yeah

Well, I think it's one of the most important things you can do as an entrepreneur is really understand.

And what a lot of entrepreneurs that I, you know, I do a lot of consulting for equity as well.

And the first thing when you meet a founder, you know, one of the first questions is always, if you were to leave for a month, what would happen?

And if it's like, oh man, you know, everything would fall apart.

Okay, then dude, you don't own a company.