John Gafford

We're going to make you worldwide known within the people that are looking for the best vending machine repair guy.

But you're not going to get, nobody's going to let you cut the line at excess at the wing.

Exactly.

Right.

The door guy's not going to see you.

Yeah.

Nobody's going to, nobody's going to see you and say, Hey, we should do a collab to sell my ball deodorant.

Exactly.

Yeah, you're not going to be that guy.

It's hard.

What do you think the biggest mistakes people make are when they do this that cause them to fail?

Yeah, I think one of the most important things for us is really vetting who comes on, right?

We get, good Lord, I mean, I don't know how many submissions we get a day, but it's a lot.

And now that there's platforms out there that we actually use the other way that we're pitching, like PodPitch and some of the other ones, it's a sea of people.

Have you heard of PodMatch?

Pod match I have.

Reason pod pitch.

Just to push me out just because it saves time and it's pretty effective and it works good.

And again, like anything else, if you package a turd, you're not going to get any calls back.

But if you have a good package and you're somebody of value that people can be like, oh, this is an authoritative person that might be interesting, it's fine.