John Gafford

And now I'm saying like, oh, wow, I should probably, I need to split this off into its own entity.

It needs to be its own thing.

I need my own personal branding stuff.

I got to drive real estate stuff.

I got to drive mortgage stuff.

I mean, all these different companies we have kind of need their niche.

It's got to get more niche.

You can't be broad anymore like this.

And you can't have a one size fits all for what you do.

But I have a question, which is it was always a real challenge to move subscribers from audio podcasts into video.

It was really, I've been doing this for four years and it's really difficult to move them from one platform to the other.

And now it's a totally separate demographic.

People don't listen to audio podcasts.

Don't go to YouTube.

It's really weird.

But what I found is now that you've got like Spotify adding video and Apple adding video and having that video podcast, and now YouTube is coming the other way where these are podcasts now.

Yep.

There's really a blending of the two.

So-

My question to you is as somebody that's doing this at a very high level, are you more concerned with, or do you think the future is more the video views or the audio?