John Gafford

You know, you said talking about not taking limitations, you said you had three kids.

What's it like growing up in your house?

Yeah.

Well, I'm hearing a lot of similarities kind of in your story in that movie, Joy.

Yes.

There's a lot of similarities from where she was to where you are.

And it's interesting.

And I'm curious based on that parallel, did you have a similar experience when you first started coming out with products and business that it was difficult to get people to take you seriously?

We are staying every second of the day.

Yeah.

That's a lot.

It's that kind of a product.

I have a, I have a story.

We have a story right now.

That's kind of unfolding.

One of my agents that worked for me personally, her husband invented this spot remover and it was his dad's creation stingray spot remover and they had it.

And then because the shows here in Vegas, it became like the go-to spot remover for whatever, just out of the garage.

Right.

And then one of the people that was in the shows here in the backstage wound up working for Oprah.

And they were getting ready to go on and she spilled chocolate on something she was going to wear.