John Gotti Jr
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615 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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This is why the attorney general in Arizona, Janet Napolitano, her name was. Let me get it right. Janet Napolitano had to do a secretive investigation on him and wouldn't even let the FBI or any federal agency know or anybody else outside of her office know what was going on because she was afraid it was going to be compromised. Now, my point is this.
I hardly knew him on the street, Sammy Gravano. I hardly knew him. He certainly does not know me. He can say anything he wants about me. He doesn't know me. That being said, I'm a Queens guy. He was a Brooklyn guy. I stood in Queens. My father was a man of the world. I was not. I was a Queens guy. Quite simple. But you took the easy way out. What happened to when you met somebody in battle?
and you either won or you lost, what happened to giving that person, if you respected that individual, if that individual showed up and fought that fight, and you respected him as a man, what happened to giving that respect in death? What happened to honoring that?
Could you sit here and say, if this guy hit me the hardest and he never quit and came fighting, what I'm gonna say now, he was a piece of cake, he was a dog. No, you're supposed to turn around and say, this guy was a worthy adversary. This guy really took it to me. He was something special. My father took it to the government. He gave them fits, took them four trials to convict him.
He beat them three in a row, okay? Took them four trials. Give that man his credit. He was intelligent enough to maneuver you. When everybody else lost, he won. Remember that. And he refused to back down and beat anybody else. Me, I would drive a minivan, and I would put a sweatsuit on, put a hat over my eyes, okay? John, right in your face. He was afraid of no one and nothing.
You give that man his credit, and certainly in death, you give a man an honorable death. You give him his credit. To sit there and take the position that this coward had taken and repetitively takes, to me, is a disgrace.
He should have killed him earlier. He should have killed him. Listen, Sammy was a guy that was green eyes. He was a monster, okay?
This is a guy, and he talks about, you know, this is an amazing thing because when they go in front of the judge, when they're going to get their sentence reduced, all of these cooperators, what they do is they cry and say, I only pulled the trigger one time, including Sammy. He said he only pulled the trigger one time. Now he boasts, 19 kills, I killed 19 people. No, he conspired.
He schemed and killed 19 people. Let's get that straight. And including two innocent people. Nobody wants to talk about the two innocent people. Why? Why doesn't anybody want to talk about Alan Kaiser, a 16-year-old boy That true mistaken identity, not Louie Melito, Sammy Gravano shot Alan Kaiser in the head. I know this because I've interviewed people in his crew.
When Sammy flipped, okay, I brought them into the lawyer's offices and told them, look, guys, open up. Be truthful here because they knew I was their protector. They knew that there was a faction within the group that wanted to kill all of them for being loyal to Sammy at one time, including Sammy's family. I wouldn't let it happen. There's another cooperator named Mikey Scars De Leonardo.
He knew all the particulars. In fact, I was using Michael to drive them in. Drive them into the city. I trusted Michael. I said, Michael, they got my word, safe passage. I made him bring them up to my Pocono house. This way they felt comfortable. We hunted together. They were suspicious that maybe I was looking to kill them. We met. We spoke. I says, look, nobody's going to harm you guys.
Nobody's going to harm you.
This is... Mikey Scars was close to me and Michael bringing them in. And I have assured all of Sammy's crew, nobody's going to harm you guys, okay? But... I'm keeping you guys, I'm helping you. I'm here. I'm in your corner. John, unless John, that order comes from John and it never will come from John, you guys are safe. But you have to cooperate here with us.
You have to go in and talk to the lawyers. You have to tell us everything about Sammy Gravano. John Gotti met Sammy Gravano for the first time in 1977 when he came out of prison. He met him for the first time. And he only met him through a couple of nightclubs coming and going, okay? He didn't really know Sammy well enough. He began to know him later on in life.
So we needed to get all these facts put together. So I established what I call the Eddie Garofalo file, okay? Which was his brother-in-law. Eddie Garofalo was his brother-in-law. His older brother-in-law. And he opened up. And I have all that, all the interview we've done. He opened up. We have it all typed up. And he talks about the rift between Sammy Gravano and Louie Melito.
And the rift happened because Louie Melito, who was a tough guy, a stand-up guy and a real tough guy in his own right, and Sammy had a problem. Apparently he had a problem, what he thought, with some bikers. They roughed him up or whatever. He went and got Louie and came back. And both had guns on them. Sammy says, that's one of them right there. They rolled up on the kid.
Sammy rolled down the window and shot the kid in the head. He always said that Louie Melito did it. Louie Melito never forgave him for putting him in that position. The kid went down as a John Doe at first. Until at some point later on, they came to a conclusion who this kid was. And even when the FBI...
was issuing the reports of all his murders, that kid was down as John Doe, which is an insult to his family. Alan Kaiser was down as John Doe, which is an insult to his family. But Louie Melito never let Sammy live that down, that he was put in that position and an innocent 16-year-old kid was shot in the head and killed. He never let him live that down. And Sammy, at some point, conspired.
Because Louis would slap Sammy. Louis was a tough guy, and Sammy wasn't. And at some point, it came to a point, and Sammy went to the chief and basically made up a story that this guy was loyal to Paul or whatever. It was a cockamamie story. It's probably above my pay grade. But ultimately, in the end, he conspired and got Louis Melito killed. This is what he does.
But you take that, for example, and you take his brother-in-law, ex-brother-in-law, Nick Scabetta. He talks about how Paul authorized him to kill Nick Scabetta. If Paul knew who Nick Scabetta was... Excuse my crassness. Am I allowed to curse? Sure. Whatever's not nailed down in this room, you can shove up my ass. How's that sound? If Paul had any idea who a guy named Nick Scabetta was...
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