John Gotti Jr
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He needed to be in it. And when he won, he just... How'd you do, Jack? Well, he bet numbers. I'll give you an interesting story, a gambling story. Joe Messina, a guy named Joe Messina. He was accused of being the shot caller for the Banano Group. They were partners in a crap game. They had a crap game together, okay? And they went and my father's job was, you know, he used to go there.
He needed to be in it. And when he won, he just... How'd you do, Jack? Well, he bet numbers. I'll give you an interesting story, a gambling story. Joe Messina, a guy named Joe Messina. He was accused of being the shot caller for the Banano Group. They were partners in a crap game. They had a crap game together, okay? And they went and my father's job was, you know, he used to go there.
They were partners and my father used to like to get into the game. Joe really didn't gamble. Joe was a money guy. And my father gets in the game and he winds up winning $90,000 in their own game. He wins $90,000, okay? And then what he does is afterwards, because, you know, Joe was pretty tight. So my father takes $10,000 off of it. Joe gets $40,000. He gets $40,000. And he gets $10,000.
They were partners and my father used to like to get into the game. Joe really didn't gamble. Joe was a money guy. And my father gets in the game and he winds up winning $90,000 in their own game. He wins $90,000, okay? And then what he does is afterwards, because, you know, Joe was pretty tight. So my father takes $10,000 off of it. Joe gets $40,000. He gets $40,000. And he gets $10,000.
And he gives us all the numbers. He calls all the numbers guys and the tips. He gives out tips and gives the number guys action. Okay? Gives them all action. And Joe's looking at him like, it's our money. And he put $10,000 back in the game. Okay? Back in the room. They hit the number the next day, my brother Frankie Boy's birthday, 015. They hit it for $375,000. Yeah. Yeah. True story.
And he gives us all the numbers. He calls all the numbers guys and the tips. He gives out tips and gives the number guys action. Okay? Gives them all action. And Joe's looking at him like, it's our money. And he put $10,000 back in the game. Okay? Back in the room. They hit the number the next day, my brother Frankie Boy's birthday, 015. They hit it for $375,000. Yeah. Yeah. True story.
This is in 1983. It's a lot of money. A lot of money, okay? This is before he became John Gotti. This is a lot of money. Now, Joe's a smart guy. Joe took his end and he bought some modular homes in the old side of Howard Beach. John Gotti got down on the Jets and anybody else. He threw it right back into the action, right back into the game. That's the kind of guy he was.
This is in 1983. It's a lot of money. A lot of money, okay? This is before he became John Gotti. This is a lot of money. Now, Joe's a smart guy. Joe took his end and he bought some modular homes in the old side of Howard Beach. John Gotti got down on the Jets and anybody else. He threw it right back into the action, right back into the game. That's the kind of guy he was.
That's the kind of guy he was. He was a guy that you had to look at him because money meant very little to him. It should have meant a lot more because it gives more stability to your family when you know you're not going to be there. But to him, it didn't matter much.
That's the kind of guy he was. He was a guy that you had to look at him because money meant very little to him. It should have meant a lot more because it gives more stability to your family when you know you're not going to be there. But to him, it didn't matter much.
Yeah, I was born in Brooklyn. Born in Brooklyn, from South Brooklyn, moved to Canarsie at five years old, 10 years old, Howard Beach. Howard Beach, out to Long Island I moved.
Yeah, I was born in Brooklyn. Born in Brooklyn, from South Brooklyn, moved to Canarsie at five years old, 10 years old, Howard Beach. Howard Beach, out to Long Island I moved.
Much safer, well, wait, wait. From what perspective are we talking about? Meaning, was it safer to be a street guy back then? No, no. Is it safer to be a street guy today? Yeah, I think so. You have to understand in both aspects of that, okay?
Much safer, well, wait, wait. From what perspective are we talking about? Meaning, was it safer to be a street guy back then? No, no. Is it safer to be a street guy today? Yeah, I think so. You have to understand in both aspects of that, okay?
It's a tricky question, but both aspects of it, because then if you just ran afoul or you did something wrong or someone thought you did something wrong, you ended up with two in your hat and in a dumpster. Today, that doesn't happen anymore. It just doesn't happen anymore. It's a kinder, gentler street, okay, in that respect. And also now on the other side of that as well, back then,
It's a tricky question, but both aspects of it, because then if you just ran afoul or you did something wrong or someone thought you did something wrong, you ended up with two in your hat and in a dumpster. Today, that doesn't happen anymore. It just doesn't happen anymore. It's a kinder, gentler street, okay, in that respect. And also now on the other side of that as well, back then,
There were 400 FBI agents that were employed against the streetlight. In the tri-state area, there were 400 FBI agents. Today, there's less than 40.
There were 400 FBI agents that were employed against the streetlight. In the tri-state area, there were 400 FBI agents. Today, there's less than 40.
I don't know. I don't give them the budget. I don't approve the budget. There's less than 40, I guess, because the technological advances. that they can track you through computers. I guess they have maybe a higher count of informants in that life, maybe. Maybe the information moves differently.
I don't know. I don't give them the budget. I don't approve the budget. There's less than 40, I guess, because the technological advances. that they can track you through computers. I guess they have maybe a higher count of informants in that life, maybe. Maybe the information moves differently.