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John Gruber

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The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

What's that?

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Are you doing it?

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

I'm going to do this.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

We're just going to talk.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Let's talk about mythos.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

So,

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

We haven't really talked about this on the show yet, but a little while ago, Anthropic released or sort of didn't release its new model, Mythos, which it said is so good at writing code that it's actually dangerous, that it found vulnerabilities in every operating system and browser, all kinds of stuff, and it launched this whole thing called Project Glasswing basically as a cybersecurity measure.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

They were like, we've built AI that is too powerful.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

We need to work on mitigating it together.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

There's been this really fascinating backlash to it since then, where there are a lot of people all the way up to Sam Altman at OpenAI who were like, this is essentially scare tactics marketing.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

They're just trying to frighten you.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

None of this is real.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

There are people who are going through and saying, well, actually, they're extrapolating the data out from a little bit of manual review of some things that they found old bugs that aren't even relevant in old software anymore, all the way to people being like,

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

This is the end of the world.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

The spectrum has been wild.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

And this week, a couple of interesting things happened.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

One of which was that it came out that a group, we think associated with a vendor of Anthropix, got access to Mythos and has been playing around with it, as far as we know, without any terrifying goals behind it.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

But they've been in there mucking around.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Mythos is also apparently potentially Anthropic's way back into deals with the US government.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

We've talked about this a lot.