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John Gruber

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The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

It's a big fallout with the Pentagon.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

It was classified a threat to the supply chain, like a whole big mess.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

And evidently, this thing is so important and so powerful that the Trump administration has decided maybe this is how we become friends again.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

All of this is to say,

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

I still have absolutely no idea how to feel about mythos, whether it's literally the end of the world or just a bit of really great fear-based marketing from Anthropic.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

What is your read on it at this moment in time?

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

And as a useful reminder, it's like, you know how we talk all the time, everybody gets these like very intense cybersecurity trainings.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

And what it actually amounts to is like people are stupid about clicking links in their email.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Every time.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Fundamentally, people are idiots is like the main security problem.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

This is sort of how I feel about mythos is like, actually, we have so many bigger security risks that are just all of us living our lives every day that I don't even know if I have time to be worried about what this model can do to my web browser.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

This model is so sick, you can't even use it.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

It's like an unbelievably great marketing line.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

I think that's right.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Where I've landed talking to people is...

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

whatever you believe about mythos in particular, and there's a lot of evidence to suggest that the thing mythos is doing is also possible for Opus and a lot of other models to do, that if you point these existing models at cybersecurity problems, they will also find bugs, that mythos is maybe better at it, but it's not a step change better at it.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

But what is certainly true is that the AI models are getting better at cracking cybersecurity.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

That is just a true thing that is happening.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

And so even if you don't take mythos as the end of the world, but just a step towards a thing becoming slightly more dangerous all the time.

The Vergecast
AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

we're still right to sort of point at everybody and say, oh my God, we have to take a giant deep breath here and figure out what to do.