John J. Boziak

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No. I said to myself, well, okay, I'm all full of chutzpah, but I don't know where to go. I'm not a ufologist. I don't know anybody in the military. What do I do? But from watching documentaries from the 70s as a little kid, and being into ufology and cryptozoology and interested in all of that, I know that at times researchers...

No. I said to myself, well, okay, I'm all full of chutzpah, but I don't know where to go. I'm not a ufologist. I don't know anybody in the military. What do I do? But from watching documentaries from the 70s as a little kid, and being into ufology and cryptozoology and interested in all of that, I know that at times researchers...

No. I said to myself, well, okay, I'm all full of chutzpah, but I don't know where to go. I'm not a ufologist. I don't know anybody in the military. What do I do? But from watching documentaries from the 70s as a little kid, and being into ufology and cryptozoology and interested in all of that, I know that at times researchers...

who come out on radio programs, television, or write a book, sometimes those people do get contacted by deep insiders with inside knowledge. This happens a lot. They'll get a canister of 8-millimeter film to their house. They'll get a document sent to them anonymously. So I said, who can I contact to start to metastasize this investigation?

who come out on radio programs, television, or write a book, sometimes those people do get contacted by deep insiders with inside knowledge. This happens a lot. They'll get a canister of 8-millimeter film to their house. They'll get a document sent to them anonymously. So I said, who can I contact to start to metastasize this investigation?

who come out on radio programs, television, or write a book, sometimes those people do get contacted by deep insiders with inside knowledge. This happens a lot. They'll get a canister of 8-millimeter film to their house. They'll get a document sent to them anonymously. So I said, who can I contact to start to metastasize this investigation?

So I called an old podcaster, old radio program, still on the air. He's been on since like 90-whatever. His name is Jeff Frentz on the JeffFrentz.com internet radio show. And he said, I know this video. I believe this video is real. Come on. I'll help you. Get the word out that you're starting to investigate it. And that's what I did. And I was humble.

So I called an old podcaster, old radio program, still on the air. He's been on since like 90-whatever. His name is Jeff Frentz on the JeffFrentz.com internet radio show. And he said, I know this video. I believe this video is real. Come on. I'll help you. Get the word out that you're starting to investigate it. And that's what I did. And I was humble.

So I called an old podcaster, old radio program, still on the air. He's been on since like 90-whatever. His name is Jeff Frentz on the JeffFrentz.com internet radio show. And he said, I know this video. I believe this video is real. Come on. I'll help you. Get the word out that you're starting to investigate it. And that's what I did. And I was humble.

I had my hat in my hand, begging the UFO community or the military, someone to help me, someone to give me any information, whether it's real or not. Remember, I'm going at this as a hoax. That's what a scientist does. You go at something to prove it's not true, not like, I know it's true. I'm going to ram it down your... I didn't do that. Lo and behold, this happened right before Memorial Day.

I had my hat in my hand, begging the UFO community or the military, someone to help me, someone to give me any information, whether it's real or not. Remember, I'm going at this as a hoax. That's what a scientist does. You go at something to prove it's not true, not like, I know it's true. I'm going to ram it down your... I didn't do that. Lo and behold, this happened right before Memorial Day.

I had my hat in my hand, begging the UFO community or the military, someone to help me, someone to give me any information, whether it's real or not. Remember, I'm going at this as a hoax. That's what a scientist does. You go at something to prove it's not true, not like, I know it's true. I'm going to ram it down your... I didn't do that. Lo and behold, this happened right before Memorial Day.

I go on his program. All my emails get swiped off my phones. So after the interview, he's like, oh, you did a great job. I hope it helps out. I go to his producer. I said, all of my emails have been removed from my iPhone. Producer goes, that happens all the time. I'm like, what? Because it happens all the time. Weirdness to all of our guests. It's just part of the landscape.

I go on his program. All my emails get swiped off my phones. So after the interview, he's like, oh, you did a great job. I hope it helps out. I go to his producer. I said, all of my emails have been removed from my iPhone. Producer goes, that happens all the time. I'm like, what? Because it happens all the time. Weirdness to all of our guests. It's just part of the landscape.

I go on his program. All my emails get swiped off my phones. So after the interview, he's like, oh, you did a great job. I hope it helps out. I go to his producer. I said, all of my emails have been removed from my iPhone. Producer goes, that happens all the time. I'm like, what? Because it happens all the time. Weirdness to all of our guests. It's just part of the landscape.

I'm like, I'm not part of your landscape. I'm like, who's doing this? He's like, well, what do you think? We think the government has been monitoring us for years. I'm like, okay. I'm like, whatever. Two weeks later, in about the middle of June, I get my first email from a person. And it just simply says, you know, I caught your interview on Jeff Rents. I'll never forget the language.