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UFO Whistleblower Leaks Alien Footage & Exposes Government Cover-Up!!! (Video Footage)
Tue, 10 Dec 2024
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Chapter 1: What is the alien interview film about?
There's an alien interview film about to be released. This did slip away from a government facility. I know this film is real. I have the military paper that had me assigned to Area 51. We have Kraft and Beans there. I got it all. Names, dates, photos, videos. One thing I would like to say, please don't cut this out. I just want you to know that today we're going to be poking the hornet's nest.
Okay.
And I hope you're prepared. The serendipity, the bizarre cosmic coincidences for the past five years in my life and with this video, I think even a person that isn't religious or spiritual would say, this guy, there's some cosmic divineness going, there's some cosmic... energy going on here where just things have just been one after another falling into place.
And all I can say is the coincidences are not coincidences. There's some kind of bizarre weirdness and timing with this video.
Can you break down a quick timeline of the footage?
First time we ever hear of alien interview is a CIA pilot, famous ufologist John Lear, in 1987, tells George Knapp on a local Las Vegas TV, there's an alien interview film about to be released. 1989, Bob Lazar comes out and says, I worked at this crazy, bizarre facility called S-4, South of Area 51. We have... craft and, he thinks, beings there. And we're reverse engineering both, examining both.
1991, we know now, this film is shot with this being. I want to be very clear, all telepathic, or they call them thought projection interviews, were filmed by the government audiovisual department, every single one of them. There's hundreds, if not thousands, of interrogations of these beings on film. And Victor then that film is smuggled out in 91 by an Air Force cameraman.
The cabal sits on it for five years. Victor in 1996 starts making the rounds in Los Angeles to try and get a network to release this. And he eventually ends up. at Rocket Pictures, a second-tier video production company. They agree to keep his name, his anonymity. They agree on a payment. He does not want to come on camera, but they say that's part of the deal.
And in 1997, on an upstart network, on a brand-new show called Strange Universe that was sorely underfunded, this comes out as a one-hour special documentary, The Alien Interview, and that is where I see it for the first time. But I was sitting in my litter room going, what am I watching here? This gray alien is tan. The medics are not in pressurized suits.
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Chapter 2: What background does Victor have in the alien footage?
But anyway, so you're investigating. Sorry for that. But I'm bringing it back. Yeah. So you decide I'm looking into this, you start looking into it. So what's the first guy? So you, you, you find out about the one-off device and at what, I mean, so is there other things that happen or you suddenly get contacted?
No. I said to myself, well, okay, I'm all full of chutzpah, but I don't know where to go. I'm not a ufologist. I don't know anybody in the military. What do I do? But from watching documentaries from the 70s as a little kid, and being into ufology and cryptozoology and interested in all of that, I know that at times researchers...
who come out on radio programs, television, or write a book, sometimes those people do get contacted by deep insiders with inside knowledge. This happens a lot. They'll get a canister of 8-millimeter film to their house. They'll get a document sent to them anonymously. So I said, who can I contact to start to metastasize this investigation?
So I called an old podcaster, old radio program, still on the air. He's been on since like 90-whatever. His name is Jeff Frentz on the JeffFrentz.com internet radio show. And he said, I know this video. I believe this video is real. Come on. I'll help you. Get the word out that you're starting to investigate it. And that's what I did. And I was humble.
I had my hat in my hand, begging the UFO community or the military, someone to help me, someone to give me any information, whether it's real or not. Remember, I'm going at this as a hoax. That's what a scientist does. You go at something to prove it's not true, not like, I know it's true. I'm going to ram it down your... I didn't do that. Lo and behold, this happened right before Memorial Day.
I go on his program. All my emails get swiped off my phones. So after the interview, he's like, oh, you did a great job. I hope it helps out. I go to his producer. I said, all of my emails have been removed from my iPhone. Producer goes, that happens all the time. I'm like, what? Because it happens all the time. Weirdness to all of our guests. It's just part of the landscape.
I'm like, I'm not part of your landscape. I'm like, who's doing this? He's like, well, what do you think? We think the government has been monitoring us for years. I'm like, okay. I'm like, whatever. Two weeks later, in about the middle of June, I get my first email from a person. And it just simply says, you know, I caught your interview on Jeff Rents. I'll never forget the language.
You got some things right. You got some things wrong. I'm knowledgeable of these programs. If I can give your investigation a nudge, I'll never forget that word, I will do so. And he emails me once a month for nine months.
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Chapter 3: What was the timeline of the alien interview footage?
In between that, I contact a very mysterious and controversial figure in ufology, a former counterintelligence agent with the United States Air Force Office of Special Investigations. His name is Rick Doty. People in ufology, of course, you know, know him. And a lot of people have a knee-jerk reaction to him.
But he's the only person in the world that says, I have the DD-214, the military paper that had me assigned to Area 51. And I told him about this. My wife contacted him on Facebook. I called him. He's like, you're on a very interesting endeavor. And, you know, kind of feeling me out if I was a goof, you What I was going to do. And again, I could see this was a pattern with intelligence people.
They just don't give you reveal everything at once. They feel you out. They don't want to give you a crack. Yeah. And it was interesting. Here's this counterintelligence agent that's supposed to give you all the bullshit, whether tell you it's real, real, real. It's fake, fake, fake or, you know. And he tells me, I don't know much about that film. But one thing I do know, it's real.
And I'm like, you're sure? He goes, I'm a thousand percent sure. He goes, and that's probably one of the only films out there on the internet right now that does show and depict an actual extraterrestrial. I said, do you know who Victor is? I don't know who Victor is. Do you know about S4? He said, yeah, I know S4, but that wasn't the facility that that film was shot. I'm like, excuse me?
He said, John, there's a ground floor building south of Papoose Lake or south of Area 51. It's called S2, the S2, S2 Alpha, Site 2, S2 Annex. It's the ground floor building, and that sits above this underground labyrinth of biocontainment facilities, research facilities, biological labs, and whatnot. And he said, that's where the AHC is. I'm like, what's the age?
He goes, well, that's the alien housing complex. And I'm doing, okay, okay, Mr. Counterintelligence agent, the alien housing complex. He said, look, I'll tell you, I've never been down to levels of three, two, three, and four, but I was stationed above ground. I was the counterintelligence agent. I had to be briefed. And what was going on in that facility. So I knew. Without seeing in person.
What was going on in that facility. And that was the housing center. For the alien interrogation and retention. They would retain these beings. And they would telepathically interrogate them. He went on after months to tell me. Some of the beings had to live in like these bizarre. Hyperbaric chambers. One being could only breathe methane gas. So they had to outfit a chamber. With only in methane.
One being. They had to put in almost like a biosphere. And my creature, the alien they show on my videotape, was in distress. And Victor says it was developing microbial bacteria in its respiratory system. Even though they kind of had a defense mechanism for that, they were still receptive to our microbial bacteria. And that being was very sick. And even that being...
had to have like bariatric chamber treatment. So a very weird, bizarre complex and a very weird story that was playing out that was not refudiating Victor's testimony but was bearing truth to what Bob Lazar said and Victor. And let me just jump back real quickly. A security guard who claimed to be an assassin for the CIA said during his cooling off periods between assassinations,
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Chapter 4: Who is Bob Lazar and why is he significant?
I don't know when this investigation... How do you drag someone there if you're not saying they're a terrorist? You drag them there, that would hit the news. Like, okay, they just... Some black helicopter scooped down, picked up some woman's husband... And, you know, three other fucking random guys and brought them to Guantanamo Bay and won't tell the wives and family members where they're at.
That's going to raise some suspicion.
A clandestine leaker, anonymous, says, FOIA this, this code of a document. Okay. I'm FOIAing and twalling the DIA so much, I'm friends with them. The head of the government disclosure for the FOIA, her name is Cheryl, she's the head She calls me, oh, the alien guy. I'm like, sure, you're going to talk about me at Thanksgiving dinner, all my craziness? She's like, oh, Mr. Stewart, no, no.
Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, we got that document, blah, blah, blah. It's about a month. I call up. The guy's name is Andrew at the FOIA desk. I said, where is my FOIA response? He said, give me your name. I give him my name. He goes, this is really weird. Folks, listen to me here. This is a government agent. This is really weird. Andrew, what's weird?
Well, your name is here, but there's no file attached. I said, what's weird about that? Happy-go-lucky guy, helpful, first name Andrew, nice guy. I want to make sure I mention that. He said, you can't get on this file. You can't get on the FOIA system here without having a file attached. And I do the, and? He goes, well, somebody had to come on here and remove it, but left your name.
He goes, this is really weird. Not thinking what he's getting himself into. He said, I'll call you back. I wait. Hour, hour and a half, he calls me back. Yeah, this is Andrew. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to get an email from Cheryl Robinson or Cheryl Davidson soon. And, you know, and yeah, we found it. Real curt, real short tempered, short, you know, like not friendly anymore.
Like somebody must have read. What did you tell this guy? You told this guy this never happened before at DIA. So I get an email. And in the middle of the email is because of the nature, the unusual nature of your request, the Defense Intelligence Agency will have to conduct interdepartment meetings. It said cross-reference investigations with other agencies in an effort to satisfy your request.
Now you're going to start having about this. But this is all fake. The alien program is fake. Why are you telling me you might have to have inter-office, inter-department meetings about a coded document that's supposed to be fake?
Like you said, if there's nothing to it, why are you sending back this FOIA that says, oh, we're going to have to start talking to other people in the Pentagon and whatnot? I just thought that was extremely bizarre. It's scary.
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Chapter 5: What is the connection between Victor and the government?
99% of the time, it's a counterintelligence operation to see what you know, who is telling you what you know. To think that this is that might be real. And somebody went to a judge in my it. I mean, my wife was officially like freaking freaked out. But once I sent all those emails and said, I'm done, suddenly my iPhone kept working.
And and I want to just tell your viewers, because you deserve this from me and your listeners and viewers. I went to Apple Corporation. because I have an iPhone, they did a forensic audit of my phone while I watched them go into my phone. It looked like something from the Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie.
And the director of that department, the forensic audit department, told the young lady that was helping me, her name was Arsh, And I have the case number. I heard him. Tell him we have no idea who could have taken his emails, why they disappeared off of four platforms on my iPhone, AOL, Gmail, my dad's AOL, and iCloud were all gone. Not just AOL. And we are sorry we can't help him.
And the fact of his blurry text, my text screen with my wife went blurry where I could only see the bottom text of hers. We have never seen a text message screen go blurry since we've been conducting forensic audits. Tell Mr. Stewart we're sorry. He was telling her, Mr. Stewart, this is okay. Did you hear that? We are so sorry. We don't know why. I go to a computer guy in Chicago.
I call him my Russian hacker. and I'll finish here, about the incursion in my life. He said, buddy, there's only two Gs that could have taken those emails off your iPhone. I said, two Gs? He's like, God in the government. And he goes, you know, God's probably not interested in what's on your iPhone. I'm like, are you serious? He goes, count on it.
And the fact that I've got a guy telling me what the program was called, the counterintelligence program. I've got Apple telling me, we can't help you. We don't know how this happened. The weirdness of the FOIAs, Rick Doty being told, oh, this guy sent up trip flares. Why?
I'm a retired, used automobile dealer, bust-out pro wrestler, failed politician who's investigating an alleged hoaxed alien video. Why would that person send off all of these rumors? these trip flares, so to speak, all of this consternation, getting court orders on my phone. Why? You can't tell me my emails disappeared because of the Holy Spirit. I'm sorry.
You can't tell me the weirdness at the DIA. Why? I thought the video was a hoax. I thought all the information about the video was a hoax. Why is this happening? Again, I'm still telling people, I don't know if this film is real, but no one, you, your friends, viewers, no one can explain why that happened to me. If it wasn't, if it was fake.
So at what point, so you're, you're, so basically you're, you're hitting a brick wall and you've investigated all these people and people are either ghosting you or you're, you're, it's not going anywhere or you're having things taken, removed. They're not providing you information. Right. But, but then we suddenly have these Navy pilots that come out.
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Chapter 6: What challenges did John face while investigating?
And I guess, obviously, they don't have to admit to everything.
It's horrible.
You're right.
You nailed it on the head.
Captured these things.
We killed scientists to keep this cover up. We did this. Possibly the drug trade was involved in getting us money. There are people out there that think we spent $3 trillion in 70 years on this. $3 trillion that could have went for after-school programs, daycare centers, bridges, roads. We could have had a utopia here in this country. So, you know, it's going to be a very difficult conversation.
If I was running this program, I would leak something or I will leave something disastrous, like a 4K of a craft coming down, beans coming out. We don't know how this leaked. OK, OK, we're going to have this. You know, if you're.
I don't want to give any examples, but if you've done something dastardly, sometimes the best thing is rip that Band-Aid off, have an excuse to come forward and do a mea culpa. It's the only way because I don't think the Congress is going to have enough spine to demand to push the Pentagon to release this. So it's got to be even like a trip.
I have very big hope for President Trump that he will take the helm on this and have some kind of dispensation program. I've already sent signals through an intermediary to the transition group that I would like to be on that panel. I would like to be on some sort of committee to be a liaison between government and the public as far as this information. And... I would leak some catastrophic UFO.
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Chapter 7: How did the Pentagon handle UFO disclosures?
Chapter 8: Who ultimately is Victor and what does he reveal?
Ben time or whatever. Things that we think are just impossible to do. Well, we don't have their knowledge, their science. So let's say they could do that. Okay, then maybe you want to come to Earth. Why do you want to come to Earth? You go, okay, well, because it's a planet that's ready to be colonized. But they're not taking it over. If you were that far advanced, you would just go into orbit.
You'd sprinkle some pixie dust. And in 24 hours, all life on Earth would be dead. And the dust that you settled would be innate. And you'd come down and you'd just occupy the planet. It'd be that simple. Because that's how simple it is. It almost is for us right now. We can take a biological weapon and fly planes over... Baghdad. Wipe out the world.
And wipe out that entire thing just by doing that. We don't do it, but that's how easy it is. If that's easy for us, what is it for a planet that's a thousand years ahead of us? They destroy us. The other thing is, oh, okay, well, they want us for our water. Water's abundant everywhere in the universe. Everywhere. Oh, they want our planet. They could probably terraform any planet they want.
What about the gold and the minerals? Yeah, gold and minerals are everywhere. It's everywhere. Listen, if you go to the asteroid belt, any one of thousands, hundreds of thousands of asteroids have more precious metals than currently exist on the planet. Any one of them. So that's out. You know, what? Power? They've beaten power.
If you're traveling across the universe, you've beaten the problem of power. What about the zoo analogy? That's really right. If that's the case... That's what I think. But if that's the case, then how are we getting a hold of them? You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying every once in a while somebody in the zoo doesn't fall in the lion's den or fall into the monkey cage, right?
The monkeys are walking around with a little three-year-old baby. I'm not saying that's not possible, that that's really what the scenario is.
Right.
I think that's what it is, but... But, you know, and then every once in a while, you know, you think, okay, well, well, then how do we get a hold of them in general? How do they crash? How do they... You know, I get, like, in some ways, it's like, okay, you traveled...
hundreds of millions of light years across the universe, you came here and your ship malfunctioned, there's an accident, you fell in the monkey cage, the gorillas got ahold of you, and now they're doing experiments on you. You'd have to take into consideration that we have no interaction with them. I guess that's possible. And they have no way to track their own people. That seems unlikely.
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