John Kiriakou
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And at the time, I felt that waterboarding was something that we needed to do.
And as time has passed, and as September 11th has moved farther and farther back into history, I think I've changed my mind.
And I think that waterboarding is probably something that we shouldn't be in the business of doing.
At the time, I was so angry and I wanted so much to help disrupt future attacks on the United States that I felt it was the only thing we could do.
I was out of it by then, but it's my understanding that he was also waterborne.
Oh, the pleasure is all mine.
Thanks for the invitation.
Not really.
What I had been hoping for, having watched Donald Trump for the last six plus years, longer than six plus years, 10 plus years, I was hoping that he would declare victory and announce that the boys are coming home.
And that's not what we saw.
What we saw was that we're winning or we won, which I don't believe we are.
And and we're going to keep fighting for weeks.
That's probably going to stretch into into months.
But one of the things that really disturbed me the most was the president threatened again to attack Iran's infrastructure, specifically its electrical grid.
And that is quite literally a war crime.
It's very unusual for a president to go on TV and announce I'm going to commit a war crime.
But that's what we saw last night.
You know, and I think that we made a policy decision to accept and to believe Israeli intelligence at face value.
I think that the Israelis had a vested interest in lying to us and pulling us into this war to do their dirty work for them.
And that's exactly what happened.