John Kiriakou

It was shocking that this was the fearsome Al-Qaeda that we were so afraid of.

And then we started doing more of these, from one a week to two a week to three a week.

Sometimes we would do two in a night.

And we started capturing

more and more important people, members of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, for example, members of Uzbek extremist groups.

And so we would just take them to the Rawalpindi jail in the nearby city of Rawalpindi.

We got to the point where we actually filled the Rawalpindi jail.

There was just no room to squeeze one more Al-Qaeda fighter in it.

And so my Pakistani counterpart came to me and said, look, the jail's full.

You have to get these guys out.

I didn't know what to do with them.

So I called CIA headquarters.

I said, the PACs want these Al-Qaeda guys out.

What do I do with them?

And I was told to put them on a transport plane and send them to Guantanamo.

I said, Guantanamo, Cuba?

Why would we send them to Cuba?

And my colleague in Washington said, well, we've come up with a plan.

This was a multi-pronged plan to detain prisoners indefinitely, to carry out torture on some of them, which at the time were called enhanced interrogation techniques, and to either render or extraordinarily render

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