John Kiriakou

And he's walking to the presidential helicopter to go to Camp David for the weekend.

And a reporter shouts a question about torture and the CIA.

And he stops and he turns and he says, well, if there is torture, it's because of a rogue CIA officer.

And I said to my wife, Brian Ross's source is at the White House and they're going to pin this on me.

So I called Brian Ross and I said, I'll give you your interview.

And I decided that no matter what he asked, I was simply going to tell the truth.

And I'm proud to say that.

I brought down torture in the United States.

John McCain, God bless his soul, I probably disagreed with John McCain on 99% of the issues, but he became my champion in the US Senate.

And he wrote what became the McCain-Feinstein Amendment, banning torture.

And then while I was at prison,

I was incarcerated.

He not only spoke on the floor of the Senate, urging the president to pardon me and release me, but he gave a speech on the floor of the Senate saying that the country owed me a debt of gratitude because without my revelations, the American people would not have had any idea what the CIA was doing in their name, the carrying out this abomination.

And, um,

And so I did my 23 months.

I came out.

And I'll tell you one funny thing.

I was on this British show.

The first interview I gave when I got out, the BBC, what's it called?

Crosstalk?