John Kiriakou

The book is called Three Felonies a Day.

And he says that we are so over-regulated, so over-criminalized in this country that the average American on the average day

Going about his or her normal daily business commits three felonies every single day.

So if they want to get you, they're going to get you.

And there's nothing you can do to protect yourself.

We were never pals.

I've known John Brennan for 35 years.

We never really cared for each other.

To tell you the truth, I thought the guy was in over his head intellectually.

When I first started there, he was a deputy group chief.

He was a GS-15 nobody, journeyman, first line, second line manager.

No big deal.

There are hundreds of them.

And he worked for this really wonderful woman, a great intellect named Martha Kessler.

And Martha was so highly respected.

She had written this book.

I still remember the title called Syria, Fragile Mosaic of Power.

And when you got hired, you got her book and you had to read the book because like, this is what we do.

This is the perfect example of what we do.

So he was her deputy.