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John Mackey

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

You have to be able to open your heart, let go of your ego and your defensiveness, and open up with empathy, with better listening skills.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

And third, you have to unleash your creative imagination, because it's the creative imagination that will come up with the win-win-win solutions that we need.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

So let me give you an example of a time we had a win-lose situation that we turned into a win-win-win.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

The most important acquisition that Whole Foods ever did was back in late 1992, about one year after we'd done our initial public offering.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

Bread and Circus, a company very similar to Whole Foods, they had six stores at that time located in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

And I was very good friends with the owner of Bread and Circus, Anthony Harnett.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

And he and I had been talking for a while about Bread and Circus selling to Whole Foods.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

And I wanted to buy it.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

for Whole Foods, and Anthony wanted to sell it.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

The problem was he wanted $30 million for his business, and it was losing money at that time.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

So there's no way I could sell it to our board of directors.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

So we sort of were in an impasse, $5 million apart, approximately.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

And so the win-win-win solution to that was he wanted all cash.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

We couldn't get there.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

So I said, Anthony, what we can do is I can do part cash and part stock, but we can get the stock price up.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

He didn't like that idea at first.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

He thought that was very risky because he was going to be risking that maybe the stock wouldn't trade up.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

Here's the thing.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

I had made a heart shift.

TED Talks Daily
The trap of win-lose thinking (and how to escape it) | John Mackey

Anthony became convinced that I wanted what was best for everyone, including him, that he could see I genuinely wanted to get his $30 million to him.