John Maeda

You know, Jay Parrick is my boss.

He's formerly the Meta.

He's used this word that I hadn't heard in a while, which is conviction.

And I think it's such a great word because someone, a leader with quote unquote taste has conviction.

But it's not just like, you know, design-y conviction.

It's not just business-y conviction.

It's not just engineering conviction.

It's that combination in the leader when they have conviction.

It is a bet, but it's a bet aimed at the global maximum.

not the local maximum.

And so I would say leaders that are doing that global maximum conviction make a huge difference.

And that's why product leaders, again, to embarrass Paul, I think Paul shot for a global maximum for design automation and he hasn't given up yet.

And that's a beautiful thing.

Oh my gosh, that's a perfect example of LLM as judge.

We have to, on both sides, on a generation of conviction and the feedback of conviction, you need both.

The anti-matter matter.

Love that.

John, any closing thoughts for us?

After picking up GitHub Design, I realized how so many people grew up at GitHub Design who were computational designers slash engineers.

There's Max at Notion who used to lead design at GitHub.