John Mayer

There's only one way, which is to find me personally, have dinner with me, be cool.

And you're actually an incredible pitch woman for coming on the show.

And I didn't really have an intention of coming on.

We had a great dinner.

Kazzy, David, you and me.

And I think there's something to do with December where you've all year been yourself.

Oh, that's, I've had some degree of confidence.

It took that to get out of my town, to get into the world, to push against the forces of people who were saying, not just not encouraging me, but actively discouraging me from doing what I ultimately have done.

And so the quality of that confidence has changed from like a beat down every door.

Push yourself on people as much as you can all the time to something way more relaxed.

So everyone, when they first start out, is way more confident than they need to be because they don't know how confident they need to be.

Right.

And so it was kind of obnoxious when I was younger.

I mean, if you're spending your whole youth

pushing against these forces of, you can't do it, you're crazy, you're gonna end up on the street, this is a terrible idea.

That's going to have a hangover effect on you for a long time where you're going to still keep pushing.

I didn't and they didn't.

I...

didn't have a presence.

I went to school to get it over with, and my life began at 3 o'clock in the afternoon when I came home and played guitar.