Chapter 1: How did John Mayer end up on Call Her Daddy?
what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy john mayer welcome to call her daddy thank you alex i am so happy you're here john i think we need to tell the daddy gang who are my listeners how did we get here because we went to a little dinner the other night and i want to kind of go through what happened at that dinner because people are probably like how did you get john mayer to come on your show
There's only one way, which is to find me personally, have dinner with me, be cool. And you're actually an incredible pitch woman for coming on the show. And I didn't really have an intention of coming on. We had a great dinner. Kazzy, David, you and me. And I think there's something to do with December where you've all year been yourself.
followed your rules done what you normally do don't do what you don't normally do and i think somewhere in the last couple weeks of each year i go like i want to do something out of character i'm so happy this is what you're calling out of character and you get to sit down with me because i yeah i pitched you like why you should come on the show and you and i kind of like battled for a minute meanwhile kazzy's sitting there like eating her chips like loving every second of it just being so happy that it was a debate it was a debate and you decided to come on
What I liked about that meeting at dinner was that you are very sure of yourself. Have you always been that confident?
Chapter 2: What shaped John Mayer's confidence as a musician?
Like what were you like in high school?
Oh, that's, I've had some degree of confidence. It took that to get out of my town, to get into the world, to push against the forces of people who were saying, not just not encouraging me, but actively discouraging me from doing what I ultimately have done. And so the quality of that confidence has changed from like a beat down every door.
Push yourself on people as much as you can all the time to something way more relaxed. So everyone, when they first start out, is way more confident than they need to be because they don't know how confident they need to be. Right.
Oh, interesting.
And so it was kind of obnoxious when I was younger. I mean, if you're spending your whole youth pushing against these forces of, you can't do it, you're crazy, you're gonna end up on the street, this is a terrible idea. That's going to have a hangover effect on you for a long time where you're going to still keep pushing.
That's really interesting because I can imagine like I was... Why I'm asking about high school is because I feel like we can agree that there's such formative years where peer approval socially is so important towards the way that you view yourself. How did you get along with people and how did people treat you?
I didn't and they didn't.
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Chapter 3: How did John Mayer navigate high school relationships?
I... didn't have a presence. I went to school to get it over with, and my life began at 3 o'clock in the afternoon when I came home and played guitar. So I didn't dislike anybody, and I almost didn't even need that particular level of approval. I was kind of invisible, and I just went to go. I didn't really pay attention in class. It's really hard to explain.
And there are people out there who I think would understand when you're 13 years old, you got five years before you can even do anything on your own. And that was the hardest part of my entire life was from 13 to getting out of high school because you already know what you know. And you have to go through the rest of this kind of rote plan that's been set for everyone.
And I remember sitting in class going like, I'm not supposed to be here.
So you're saying you knew what you wanted to do. You knew you were going to be a musician. You're like, why am I in social studies? Like, what the fuck am I doing here?
Chapter 4: What experiences influenced John Mayer's songwriting?
Did people bully you? Like, were you the like dorky musician or no?
I was bullied a little bit, but I was always kind of big. I was tall. I remember getting punched in the arm for flinching. I don't know if that's still a thing. This is the most butch your show has ever been.
I'm talking to you about Christmas special. OK, did you date in high school?
I had one girlfriend in high school, but I didn't really date. I had one girlfriend in high school.
What were you like in like what was John like in high school dating?
Probably the best version I ever was of myself. I would like to think that was the best version. And the next time is the best version.
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Chapter 5: How does fame affect John Mayer's interactions with women?
I only had one girlfriend before everything changed in my life. To me, like the truest, most innocent, realist, like sweetest. It was high school.
Did you ever through your fame wonder if you should reach back out?
I did. I did reach back out a few times.
Because you were looking for what?
maybe to bring that part of my life into the new part of my life. But by that point, she was married and had kids and I thought that's a separate chapter or that thing in my life was a separate chapter. I don't have to talk to people to know that I'm okay, that we're okay. I think that's telepathic.
I liked you said that at dinner. Just something about like there's certain people in your life that you don't need to be in their life anymore. But it's really cool when you have a mutual understanding, whether it's an ex, whether it's someone that was your friend at some point to just be like, we don't need to talk to know like we're good. We're all right.
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Chapter 6: What does John Mayer cherish about his rise to fame?
We don't talk anymore for whatever reason. But like you
Yeah, I mean there are a couple little outstanding still vibrating things. I would love to get to a hundred percent closure I don't think that's realistic in anyone's life. Do you have someone in your life that it's always gonna be incomplete?
Yeah, I think everyone has a couple of those but but for the most part it's been important for me to Move on into my adult years in my life with the piece of like we're cool. We don't have to talk and
Okay, so we're about to leave high school because I'm just kind of going through the journey of you. Yes. You performed at your high school graduation.
Yes, I did.
Were people nice to you then or no?
Yeah, that was right around the time where I started to reveal myself as a guitar player and I was in a band and we'd written a couple songs. We'd written a song for graduation. I didn't actually graduate at that ceremony, so I didn't get enough credits to graduate.
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Chapter 7: How does John Mayer feel about performing live?
I had to go to summer school. And so it was a very deep moment to play that song and walk off the field while the rest of my friends graduated and I walked home.
Okay, but just so everyone knows... How bluesy is that? Six years later, you're a Grammy-winning artist.
This part... Freaks me out. Chronologically speaking, this part is maybe one of the only aspects of my life that truly blows my mind.
Why?
Because it's such a short period of time that felt longer to me. I graduated in 1995, and six years later, I was playing arenas. At that point, I was playing clubs, but I had an album out that would end up winning Grammys, and that was six years.
So it didn't really fucking matter that you had to go to summer school. You're like, I didn't even need to graduate.
And you know what I always think now is like there are people who get branded misfit loser, you know, you know, in some way sort of develop mentally disabled. No, they're not.
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Chapter 8: What are John Mayer's New Year's resolutions?
They're on some other track that they have no school for, you know.
I love that you're saying that, too, because it goes back to what you said of like I was sitting in that class and I knew I wasn't supposed to be there, but I had to be there. It's interesting to hear you say like it's so crazy to me that six years after I graduate college, I'm winning a Grammy for Your Body is a Wonderland.
You were dating someone at the time that you're writing this iconic song.
No, I wasn't. You weren't? No, that was about my first girlfriend. That was about the feeling, which I think was already sort of nostalgic. I was 21 when I wrote that song and I was nostalgic for being 16.
I thought it was about a different.
No, that's that's one of those things where people just sort of form that idea. It gets reinforced over the years. No, no, no. I had never met a celebrity when I wrote that song.
And did your high school girlfriend know you wrote that about her?
That's a good question. Maybe she didn't. Maybe she didn't.
To this day?
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