John Mayer

Either been on the receiving end or the giving end of that.

It's the people who haven't had that yet who will probably have the loudest reactions because they don't understand it yet.

And we all meet up.

at the end of this, at the end of these crazy twenties and thirties, we all meet up and I meet people.

I can't remember if they were mad at me or if I was mad at them because we all meet up after this craziness and we all go through our own stuff.

You know, we all meet up at the end and I, and we go, Hey, how you doing?

Because I don't really live exposed to all of it.

I don't quite feel it and I'm OK with it because it's linked to something that I have to do anyway.

I get to do this thing.

If I'm having a day where I don't like any of this stuff, I can pick up a guitar and listen to myself play and go, that's why you do it.

So the fact that this is all linked to something that I do objectively well, that I can listen to and I can write a song, I can play a song, I can play the guitar.

That's what anchors me to all this stuff.

All of this is happening because I play the guitar, write music and sing in a way that people want to pay attention to.

I can't imagine what this would be like if I didn't have that grounding element.

And as I get older, I have so much empathy for people who are really well known, but don't quite have something to hold onto like a buoy.

You know, my life gives me this buoy, which is I can write a song, I can play guitar.

It's tough even that way, but it's not like I'm famous from a thing that happened to me or a thing I was a part of that I was no longer a part of because the person who hired me for the thing didn't want me anymore.

So it's very stable.

I've come to terms with the fact that it's never gonna be another way.

And most of it now, because I don't really interface with people for anything other than music, for the most part it's like I have manufactured irrelevance in the parts of my career that I want to be irrelevant.