John Mearsheimer

But I think that problem could be dealt with.

It's important to understand that Arafat and the PLO was once adamantly opposed to a two-state solution.

But Arafat came around to understand that that was really the only hope for settling this problem.

And he became a proponent of a two-state solution.

And that's true of Mahmoud Abbas, who runs the PA in the West Bank.

It's not true of Hamas at this point in time.

They want a one-state solution.

They want a Palestinian state.

And of course, the Israelis want a one-state solution too, which is a Jewish state that controls all of greater Israel.

So the question is, can you get

some sort of agreement.

And I think to get to the nub of your question, given what's just happened, it's almost impossible to imagine that happening anytime soon.

No, I don't believe that.

I mean, just to take the Netanyahu government or any Israeli government that maintains the occupation, what you want is you want a Palestinian population that submits to Israeli domination of greater Israel.

You don't want resistance.

You don't want an intifada.

You don't want what happened on October 7th.

In fact, I think one of the principal reasons that the Israelis are—

pounding Gaza and killing huge numbers of civilians, punishing the civilian population in ways that clearly violate the laws of war is because they want the Palestinians to understand that they are not allowed to rise up and resist the occupation.

That's their goal.