John Mearsheimer

And this is why we have pushed very hard for two-state solution.

Indeed, many American Jews and many Israelis have pushed for a two-state solution because they think that that is the only way you're going to get –

between the two sides.

But what's happened here is that in recent years, the Israelis have lost all interest in a two-state solution.

And it's in large part because the political center of gravity in Israel has steadily moved to the right.

When I was a young boy, the political center of gravity in Israel was much further to the left than it is today.

And it is in a position now, the political center of gravity, where there's hardly any support for two-state solution.

And Netanyahu and the rest of the people in his government were in favor or are in favor of a greater Israel.

There's just no question about that.

Well, on top of that, you now have had a war where, as you described—

huge numbers of civilians have been killed.

And you already had bad blood between the Palestinians and the Israelis before this conflict.

And you could imagine how people on each side now feel about people on the other side.

So even if you didn't have this opposition inside Israel to a two-state solution—

How could you possibly get the Israelis now to agree to a two-state solution?

I think for the foreseeable future, the animosity inside Israel towards the Palestinians is so great that it is impossible to move the Israelis in that direction.

And the Israelis here are the key players, more so than the Palestinians, because it's the Israelis who control greater Israel.

It's the Israelis who you have to convince.

Now, I want to be clear here.

You also ultimately have to get around the fact that Hamas, right, is not committed to a two-state solution.