John Mellencamp

And had to hold on to.

Oh, wow.

They said, John, this is, they're too rough.

They're too raw.

And what is this sound in Jack and Diane?

It's not even, what is that sound?

Well, the sound is,

was I would walk by the Bee Gees studio, and they had just invented drum machines.

And the Bee Gees were using it to keep time.

Because, you know, most drummers, they speed up, you know, they start the song at this tempo, and all of a sudden, they're like, by the end of the song, it's like, I can't keep up with you, goddammit, slow down.

So the Bee Gees were using it to keep time.

And I heard this sound, and so I knew the engineer.

His name was Albie Gluten.

And I said, Albie, can I borrow that machine?

He goes, yeah, because we're not going to be in the studio for a week.

So we were doing a song called Jack and Diane that just was not working out because the drummer kept speeding up.

And when you're trying to keep it simple, stupid, simple is hard.

Because if you make a little mistake, it's a big mistake now because there's not a bunch of shit covering up your mistake.

Right.

So I called up Mick Ronson.