John Nunemaker

And, you know, I love Justin. I mean, Justin, he got me back into indie stuff. Like, I was completely out of indie. I was at GitHub, you know, and even then I left and, you know, did BoxOut, but I was still not, I was not in the indie space. I was not doing other stuff on the side, like... And then I started listening to Mega Maker and some of the other stuff he did.

And, you know, I love Justin. I mean, Justin, he got me back into indie stuff. Like, I was completely out of indie. I was at GitHub, you know, and even then I left and, you know, did BoxOut, but I was still not, I was not in the indie space. I was not doing other stuff on the side, like... And then I started listening to Mega Maker and some of the other stuff he did.

And I was like, heck yeah, why am I not doing this? I should do this again, you know? And so again, for me, I'm like, I want to now have a podcast. I want to have my own. So I think Garrett and I, you know, we're going to start our own, you know, fireside podcast.

And I was like, heck yeah, why am I not doing this? I should do this again, you know? And so again, for me, I'm like, I want to now have a podcast. I want to have my own. So I think Garrett and I, you know, we're going to start our own, you know, fireside podcast.

And it's going to be like, maybe two, maybe one is like the building of, and one is like, here's how to better, you know, like we interview other podcasters and talk to them about their setup, what they do, what's different, like all that kind of stuff of like, things that teach people how to start or how to get better or how to improve.

And it's going to be like, maybe two, maybe one is like the building of, and one is like, here's how to better, you know, like we interview other podcasters and talk to them about their setup, what they do, what's different, like all that kind of stuff of like, things that teach people how to start or how to get better or how to improve.

But then we also, I feel like the thing I'm passionate about, which you can hear when I'm talking about it, is like, I'm passionate about the company side. I'm super fascinated about, like you said, with the hub and spoke of like, now we have like a nice chunk size business that can be kind of like a starter. And it's way easier to buy that than to build that.

But then we also, I feel like the thing I'm passionate about, which you can hear when I'm talking about it, is like, I'm passionate about the company side. I'm super fascinated about, like you said, with the hub and spoke of like, now we have like a nice chunk size business that can be kind of like a starter. And it's way easier to buy that than to build that.

I mean, I'm building that with Flipper. Flipper's like, you know, five figures, mid five figures. So you're talking like, that's of like... Again, partial work on it and stuff like that. But it's not big. You know, Fireside is like more like mid six figures, you know, box out seven figures and stuff like that. So I'm like, I've seen the ranges in there and stuff.

I mean, I'm building that with Flipper. Flipper's like, you know, five figures, mid five figures. So you're talking like, that's of like... Again, partial work on it and stuff like that. But it's not big. You know, Fireside is like more like mid six figures, you know, box out seven figures and stuff like that. So I'm like, I've seen the ranges in there and stuff.

And I'm like, it's way easier to acquire something than to start and build that from scratch. It just takes a long time and also a lot of like right, right decisions and stuff like that. So, so yeah, I think it can definitely be that kind of centerpiece. And then it'll, because we have, you can't have a podcast host and not have a podcast, right? Like you, you have to, I think it's actually law.

And I'm like, it's way easier to acquire something than to start and build that from scratch. It just takes a long time and also a lot of like right, right decisions and stuff like that. So, so yeah, I think it can definitely be that kind of centerpiece. And then it'll, because we have, you can't have a podcast host and not have a podcast, right? Like you, you have to, I think it's actually law.

It is. It's law now. Yeah. I passed at least in California. I'm not sure about California.

It is. It's law now. Yeah. I passed at least in California. I'm not sure about California.

Yeah, I've watched it.

Yeah, I've watched it.

It's familiar, but it's been like years since I watched it.

It's familiar, but it's been like years since I watched it.

I take that as the highest compliment I do. Because, like, I don't, again, there's other people that, like,

I take that as the highest compliment I do. Because, like, I don't, again, there's other people that, like,