John Nunemaker

Yep, it could have been worse. But yeah, I feel like, you know, I don't know the best way to answer it, but I feel like, it's not even really a question, but more it's like, I very much appreciate that sentiment. It might, I don't feel like I have golden touch, but I feel like I am very conservative and methodical. You know, my favorite quote is that like, you know, consistency beats intensity.

Yep, it could have been worse. But yeah, I feel like, you know, I don't know the best way to answer it, but I feel like, it's not even really a question, but more it's like, I very much appreciate that sentiment. It might, I don't feel like I have golden touch, but I feel like I am very conservative and methodical. You know, my favorite quote is that like, you know, consistency beats intensity.

Like, I don't have to work on this 60 hours a week, you know, for three weeks. Like I can work on this, you know, X hours a week for five years. And I can just keep doing that because I love the process of building software. So that's like my, I guess, my advantage. And that's why I'm not really worried about it. It's like, I like the process of building software. I like talking to customers.

Like, I don't have to work on this 60 hours a week, you know, for three weeks. Like I can work on this, you know, X hours a week for five years. And I can just keep doing that because I love the process of building software. So that's like my, I guess, my advantage. And that's why I'm not really worried about it. It's like, I like the process of building software. I like talking to customers.

I like solving their problems. I like building stuff and I like charging them money for it. And it's not going to, I'm not going to build the next GitHub. I'm not going to build the next of any of those kinds of things. And I don't even have any interest in that, but I'm very happy to build something that's like someday is five, 10, 15, 20 people max. And everybody's really stoked.

I like solving their problems. I like building stuff and I like charging them money for it. And it's not going to, I'm not going to build the next GitHub. I'm not going to build the next of any of those kinds of things. And I don't even have any interest in that, but I'm very happy to build something that's like someday is five, 10, 15, 20 people max. And everybody's really stoked.

And we just try and pay everybody more every year. You know, like that, that sounds awesome to me. So that's what I want to kind of do next is that kind of thing. I don't know how long it'll take or if I'll succeed, but.

And we just try and pay everybody more every year. You know, like that, that sounds awesome to me. So that's what I want to kind of do next is that kind of thing. I don't know how long it'll take or if I'll succeed, but.

It's possible, but I've worked at bigger companies, but I guess I wasn't at the top in bigger companies.

It's possible, but I've worked at bigger companies, but I guess I wasn't at the top in bigger companies.

Really? Yeah. I mean, box out was literally four people well past a million, like four people, maybe five people, you know, like some, some help and support and stuff too. Like you can, there's so much leverage if you can write software. And the key is finding people who can also either depending on,

Really? Yeah. I mean, box out was literally four people well past a million, like four people, maybe five people, you know, like some, some help and support and stuff too. Like you can, there's so much leverage if you can write software. And the key is finding people who can also either depending on,

know the the plans can either market it if it's lower price plans or sell it if it's higher price plans you know like i feel like that's it's just build good software and then have one of those arms you know you got that wrong build very good software yes very good software yes buy it or not we're not beggars parks and rec huge fan there you go what's the right number of businesses to own in this holding company

know the the plans can either market it if it's lower price plans or sell it if it's higher price plans you know like i feel like that's it's just build good software and then have one of those arms you know you got that wrong build very good software yes very good software yes buy it or not we're not beggars parks and rec huge fan there you go what's the right number of businesses to own in this holding company

Well, I think it's just based on the number of people and the amount of work that's necessary. So again, I don't believe every piece of software requires full-time work. I don't think that that's a thing that you have to do. So I think the right number of businesses is how many can we work on based on the people that we have and the revenue that's inside of it.

Well, I think it's just based on the number of people and the amount of work that's necessary. So again, I don't believe every piece of software requires full-time work. I don't think that that's a thing that you have to do. So I think the right number of businesses is how many can we work on based on the people that we have and the revenue that's inside of it.

So if we have the revenue to support... Three people, whatever, halftime, that's what we'll do as soon as we have the revenue to support more. The people who are halftime will move off of other things, aka box out, and they'll move up on this and I'll replace them at box out with somebody else. Because they're owners, I want owners in the company working on it more than randos.

So if we have the revenue to support... Three people, whatever, halftime, that's what we'll do as soon as we have the revenue to support more. The people who are halftime will move off of other things, aka box out, and they'll move up on this and I'll replace them at box out with somebody else. Because they're owners, I want owners in the company working on it more than randos.

So that's, I think the answer is basically, I mean, having done it now, I'm like, oh my gosh, I want to do it again. But Garrett is like a very good anti-force to that. He's like, dude, can we let the dust settle on one? Can you just like calm down? Because it's really cool. I think it's really neat to find like a good, but I think it's also very hard as well. So we got lucky.

So that's, I think the answer is basically, I mean, having done it now, I'm like, oh my gosh, I want to do it again. But Garrett is like a very good anti-force to that. He's like, dude, can we let the dust settle on one? Can you just like calm down? Because it's really cool. I think it's really neat to find like a good, but I think it's also very hard as well. So we got lucky.