John Nunemaker

They're pre-plausible, pre-fathom, pre-all these things. I was going to say, plausible is killing it, you know? Right? I mean, you can't tell me if Gages wasn't still around and we were working on it. I mean, it's around, but it's some PE firm owns it, so who cares? But like, if we... didn't work on it for the last 15 years, you can't tell me that it would not be killing it.

They're pre-plausible, pre-fathom, pre-all these things. I was going to say, plausible is killing it, you know? Right? I mean, you can't tell me if Gages wasn't still around and we were working on it. I mean, it's around, but it's some PE firm owns it, so who cares? But like, if we... didn't work on it for the last 15 years, you can't tell me that it would not be killing it.

I just, I would not believe it. I feel like it would be,

I just, I would not believe it. I feel like it would be,

would be killing it and harmony as well i feel like harmony was way ahead of its time on its template system and the control that it gave you and the ease of use for like people that are not devs to put content in and stuff like that and i'm like i just there's a side of me that always wishes genuinely that i could a b test my life and see which path because i like control and i like return on investment and i like you know having an impact and it's really hard to do in a big company

would be killing it and harmony as well i feel like harmony was way ahead of its time on its template system and the control that it gave you and the ease of use for like people that are not devs to put content in and stuff like that and i'm like i just there's a side of me that always wishes genuinely that i could a b test my life and see which path because i like control and i like return on investment and i like you know having an impact and it's really hard to do in a big company

obviously things went great with GitHub and, and stuff like that. But I'm like, I'm just better in small stuff. Small pond is my, that's my, my thing. So I'm like, I'm really curious. So I don't know. I don't know. Like maybe it would make sense to like go bigger or to do other things or all that kind of stuff. But I'm like, I know those other things.

obviously things went great with GitHub and, and stuff like that. But I'm like, I'm just better in small stuff. Small pond is my, that's my, my thing. So I'm like, I'm really curious. So I don't know. I don't know. Like maybe it would make sense to like go bigger or to do other things or all that kind of stuff. But I'm like, I know those other things.

And so on this, on this instance right now, I'm like, I don't want to sell. I want to, as long as I can, I want to just like be like a buy and hold and, And also the last three weeks I've been reading Warren Buffett. That's probably the, that's probably part of it. But, but I, I formed the thesis, you know, before that. So now I'm just like, okay, well, what does he do?

And so on this, on this instance right now, I'm like, I don't want to sell. I want to, as long as I can, I want to just like be like a buy and hold and, And also the last three weeks I've been reading Warren Buffett. That's probably the, that's probably part of it. But, but I, I formed the thesis, you know, before that. So now I'm just like, okay, well, what does he do?

Cause that's, he's a very notorious buy and hold kind of person. So yeah, so that's, that's kind of it. I could be totally wrong. Maybe I am just like zero to one or zero to 1.5 or two and sell. That's entirely possible. But I kind of wonder what would happen if I didn't. And I'm like, I don't have to sell right now.

Cause that's, he's a very notorious buy and hold kind of person. So yeah, so that's, that's kind of it. I could be totally wrong. Maybe I am just like zero to one or zero to 1.5 or two and sell. That's entirely possible. But I kind of wonder what would happen if I didn't. And I'm like, I don't have to sell right now.

And they just made a glass one. Like literally it just came out. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah.

And they just made a glass one. Like literally it just came out. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah.

Yeah. So, I mean, you don't have, but I view like here, my obsession, I think the last, let's say three or four years has been cashflow. Yeah. Cause I'm like, like I've seen the, I understand multiples and exits and stuff like that. But I'm like, if you can create a lot of cashflow, like then you can, you know, you can pay people to do the work and keep the cashflow coming.

Yeah. So, I mean, you don't have, but I view like here, my obsession, I think the last, let's say three or four years has been cashflow. Yeah. Cause I'm like, like I've seen the, I understand multiples and exits and stuff like that. But I'm like, if you can create a lot of cashflow, like then you can, you know, you can pay people to do the work and keep the cashflow coming.

And then you can do less and less on it in theory. And so like, I mean, I've definitely seen, you know, I don't work as much on box out as I used to. I mean, that's, that's a true thing. I feel like, Once you can get the cash flow, then you can pay people well to work on it. And they're probably better than you at those specific skills anyways. And so it's fine. Maybe they're not.

And then you can do less and less on it in theory. And so like, I mean, I've definitely seen, you know, I don't work as much on box out as I used to. I mean, that's, that's a true thing. I feel like, Once you can get the cash flow, then you can pay people well to work on it. And they're probably better than you at those specific skills anyways. And so it's fine. Maybe they're not.

That's entirely possible. And I'm picky, so I don't know. But we have a couple of people in the development seat now at BoxOut that are doing things. And so we're... You know, we have to obviously that it's not just a press a button and receive code. It's a lot of work to like train people the way you do it or things like that. But I don't think you have to. Here's the thing.

That's entirely possible. And I'm picky, so I don't know. But we have a couple of people in the development seat now at BoxOut that are doing things. And so we're... You know, we have to obviously that it's not just a press a button and receive code. It's a lot of work to like train people the way you do it or things like that. But I don't think you have to. Here's the thing.