John Palfrey

Most of what we're doing, honestly, is information sharing and then aligning.

So Michelle and I might say, okay, we care very much about making this up, but what's happening with the tech policy in California right now?

And let's together support tech equity and this amazing woman, Catherine Bracey, who's leading a coalition of people.

This is a time-limited important thing and it matters for us in Illinois.

It's going to matter for people in New York where you're sitting, etc.,

So let's go in.

So some of it's going to be pooled, some of it's going to be aligned.

And I think really, really importantly, it is the information sharing that we're doing and creating strength and power through the knowledge of what we can do together, which is different than each of us saying, oh, we're such a special snowflake and each of these 10 foundations just can do our own thing.

No, we're actually saying we're going to be stronger together by virtue of this collaboration.

And that's what we're about.

I think it is a key factor for us in terms of how we operate.

In some ways, I'm just going to step back for a second.

We as philanthropy, when you actually ask Americans, we are as popular as puppies.

We pull like 90% popularity.

I'll do much better than that.

Why?

We're giving away money.

Yeah, exactly.

You can't do better than puppies.

I don't know.