John R. Miles

Because you would live your life completely differently.

One of the things, Eric, I wanted to make sure we covered was the third part of your book and you move into something that you call the gift of being.

What does the gift of being mean for a listener in practical terms?

So I wanted to go into this state of being because one of the things, especially when I'm in the dungeon of writing a book and that stress is I tend to not be as present as I should be with those who are, who are most meaningful in my life.

And I wanted to go back to your renew formula.

So

I think so many of us are drifting away from connection more and more.

So if you want to

Well, I think you, you did a great job explaining it.

And Eric, I wanted to, as we get close to closing and we've talked a lot

about many different topics from the book today.

But when I think about the arc of what we went through, we talked about the importance of small actions.

We talked about self-awareness, self-compassion, kind of forgiveness, renewal.

As someone goes through this whole framework that's in the book, what's the first real shift that a listener would notice if they started applying this in their life?

Well, for the listener, what I really valued from Eric's book is a couple of your own story.

You bring in a lot of the science from people that you've interviewed on the podcast, which is something I love to do in my own books.

And then I loved how you brought in things like the ancient farmer's story and the perspective chapter and other stories to highlight the points.

So I found this to be a really profound book that will help a ton of people.

And I do love the framework that you put together because so many books I read will have a simple idea.

but they don't really go into how do you put that idea really into practice in a big way.