John R. Miles

And I thought your book did a good job of talking about the premises and then showing you how to implement it.

So it's not just a book that sits on the table, but it's something that people actually take out and apply again and again, which to me is what makes a long tail book, which I think this one will become.

you probably know who rory vaden is and i was talking to rory one time he goes people don't pay for information they pay for the application of the information yeah and i think there's so much truth to that but it's so uncanny to me how many people listen to my podcast and we put out a guide for every single episode that people could use as a workbook to put the episode into practice in their life and we track these downloads and it

Eric, always such an honor to have you on the show.

Huge fan of you and your work.

Where can people learn the most about you?

Awesome.

Eric, thank you again for joining us and congrats again on this incredible new book.

That brings us to the end of today's conversation.

And honestly, what stayed with me most is this.

So many people believe transformation should be dramatic.

They think change arrives through some singular breakthrough moment that permanently alters everything overnight.

But real change is usually much quieter than that.

It happens through repeated choices, repeated awareness, repeated moments of returning.

Returning after setbacks, returning after self-doubt, returning after life inevitably knocks us off course.

And one of the things I appreciated most about Eric's perspective is that he removes shame from the process of growth.

He reminds us that falling off track is not failure.

It's part of being human.

And what matters is learning how to return without turning every setback into evidence that we are incapable of change.

I also think this conversation speaks to something much larger happening culturally right now.