John R. Miles

Yes.

In your book, which we're going to be discussing today, which is titled Having It All, one of the things that you discuss was

how when you had your child, you were having to do a two hour commute on top of everything else that was going on with the family and everything else.

Could you bring us back to that time period and what this showed you about having to stack all these things on top of each other?

And I know your research has a lot of focus on women, but I think this feeling of overwhelm, as I described with myself,

is gender neutral.

And what I think is it's actually a structural problem with modern life.

And I think that's something you agree with.

I think there's definitely a lot of that going on.

I think from a structural standpoint, the other thing I found is even your children's schools are asking for constraints of your time.

I know for us to get our kids into either a private school or a magnet type school or a fundamental school type of environment, there are requirements that they put on the parents for how much time they're willing to invest in the school.

And if you've got two working parents,

it's just such a barrier plus everything you've got to do after school and the after school commitments that are also hit you, et cetera.

to me, the structural elements are at work, but they go far beyond work.

And oftentimes, we don't even realize that even when we sign up to volunteer or to be part of church groups or other things, there tends to be far more commitments that come to it than first meet the eye.

So I have been doing a lot of interviews lately.

And one of

around my new book, The Mattering Effect.

And one of those was with Barry Schwartz, who I'm sure you probably know personally.

And he and I were really talking about why he,