John R. Miles

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Now, back to my conversation with Nir Bishan.

I think for me, one of the things that was really getting in my way was I was part of Stitcher, SiriusXM, one of the most prestigious podcast networks that is out there.

And I was making...

good money from it.

So the barrier was I had this prestige from being with what I thought was this big brand.

I'm making great money, more money from the podcast than I had before.

So part of it was my confidence level in would I be able to replicate the revenue from my own thing?

But what I realized with them was that I was

in the big scheme of things out of all the different brands that they have are really small fish in a huge ecosystem.

And so I didn't feel

that inherent push to help me increase my brand, to help it grow, to help it become stickier.

And I didn't really see this magnifying effect that I could take this on to help other people do what I was doing.

And it was because of those additional layers that I thought if I could have

more control, then this tiny one show could start impacting people when you start adding other voices who help magnify it.

But once you start, as you say in this story about coral reefs,

where you end up ends up becoming a different place completely because you end up hitting different creative barriers that you have to find solutions for, which is why I love the whole premise of the book, because you need to have the creativity, but you also need to come up with the solutions to come up with the barriers in novel ways.

So you fast forward and there's another superpower I want to talk about, which is how to untangle complexity.