John R. Miles

I think it's the same thing that you're alluding to with the oxygen mask.

We start getting depleted of it and all of a sudden it then starts having unimaginable consequences that we never imagined.

And when I was talking to Gordon Flett about this, I was asking him about loneliness and burnout and hopelessness and rising anxiety.

And I asked him, do you think these things are all related?

And his term is anti-mattering.

Do you think anti-mattering is at the root of it?

And he said his research was, in his opinion, yes, this is the major cause and those are symptoms of it.

If you think about that analogy with the oxygen, if mattering is like oxygen, do you think his premise has weight?

Yeah.

Corinne, are you familiar with Professor Gilovich's work out of Cornell?

so he has been studying regret like at people when they're in their third trimester of life

what do they regret the most?

And his work is pretty eyeopening because it showed that 76% of them regret not living to become their ideal self.

And now we could question what does ideal self mean?

Is that self transcendence?

Is that self actualization?

But to me, if you think about the utility function that you brought up,

I think it's those things that our future self would value that you accomplished.

And when you look back that you were proud that you took the time to do them is how I see it.

Is that similar as how you would look at it?