John R. Miles

They took an old, I think it was a girl's private school and turned it into a campus for both institutions after they split.

But while I was there, we went through this course and there was a former CIA officer

consultant who came in and what she focused on was helping us look at our own nervous habits, but also recognizing what subtle signs mean for someone who was buying our services.

Meaning she would tell us,

How could you pick up if someone was saying no or someone was lying or someone was not believing what you were saying?

And then what are signs that you're giving off, even in subtle ways, that you're not confident, that you're unsure of how you're presenting or you're awkward in the moment?

And it was really eye-opening.

I bet.

Have you ever?

Yeah.

Have you ever been through anything like that of someone like critiquing your speaking?

Oh, have I ever?

Last year, I was the one MC for the Podcast Hall of Fame.

And as we were prepping for it, as you're probably familiar at most keynotes that you do, there are monitors in front of you so that you can see what's coming up next.

And in this case, I had to introduce a lot of people and thank a lot of sponsors and do this and do that.

So I get up there, after about 30 seconds, the screen goes black.

And it's not coming back.

And I am just like, what am I going to do?

And you can't let that on.

But those are the things that I think people never think it's going to happen.