John R. Miles

And you can do it every day.

So I thought, what a great way to teach kids that they can experience awe by performing.

acts of kindness and acts of kindness is something that you like to talk about as well.

So I was hoping we might be able to end here and what practices do you suggest that listeners can do to implement this more in their everyday life?

And lastly, for listeners who have tuned in today and want to learn more about you, your practice and where they can get the book, which will be everywhere here in a couple of days, where's the best place to go?

Well, it was such an honor to have you on the show today and congratulations on this fantastic book, The Power of Real Optimism.

That brings us to the end of today's conversation with Deepika Chopra.

And what stood out most to me is this.

We often think optimism means believing everything will turn out exactly as we hope.

But Deepika reminds us something far wiser.

Real optimism isn't certainty, it's courage in uncertainty.

It's the willingness to face difficulty without surrendering possibility.

And maybe that's the deeper lesson of this entire Purpose by Design series.

Purpose is designed through how we relate to meaning, to identity, to effort, to connection, and ultimately to possibility.

Because maybe the future isn't shaped most by what we wish for, but by what we expect enough to move toward.

And maybe optimism, real optimism, is one of the most courageous forms of intentional living there is.

And that insight leads us into a powerful new chapter.

Next week, we begin a brand new series that I'm calling Forged in Adversity, How Struggle Shapes Meaning, Resilience, and Transformation.

We open it with Kathy Gaiesti in a conversation called From Fatal to Fearless, Turning Crisis into Colin.

It's about what happens when adversity doesn't just test you, it transforms you, and you won't want to miss it.