John R. Miles

And we wear all these masks to perform a different version of us.

And I think that is what is leading so much to the loneliness, hopelessness, whatever you call it.

Are you familiar with Robin Dunbar?

Oh, so Robin Dunbar was a British anthropologist and came up with this, what's called Dunbar's number, which is that we are wired evolutionary wise to have no more than 150 connections.

And I think I've done some solo podcasts on this topic.

And one of the things I think that's happening

is we in the world now are essentially being asked to be present for what's happening to 7 billion people instantaneously.

So negative things that are happening across the world, we're supposed to be an expert in them, or I think we're held to that standard.

And evolutionary wise, there's no way that we can do it.

So there's just a huge mismatch between what's going on.

And there's no wonder people feel so exhausted and overwhelmed.

When our time left, I wanted to give the audience a couple of practical tools.

So since becoming a mom, you focused on helping a lot of parents raise more optimistic children.

What are the most important things parents can do to cultivate resilience and optimism in their kids?

And the last thing I just wanted to briefly touch on is your chapter 10, which is really about the science of self-care.

And one of the things that you had in here is I'm a huge fan of Dacher Keltner, University of California, Berkeley.

And he writes a lot about awe and how do you experience an everyday life?

And I love his concept of moral beauty.

I've probably talked about it more than any other concept.

And I actually, in my children's book, put this into life because I've created a whole platform called Pass the Ripple, where his moral beauty is all about everyday acts of kindness or how you experience awe in the most pervasive way.